Police surprised by new powers they have to stop anyone they see for no reason????

[MarkB]

Routine traffic stops are completely legal in Ontario, to check drivers for licences, insurance and/or sobriety. The court has upheld them as the need for public safety on our highways, outweigh any charter breaches caused by routine stops.

The problem is, they have given a police officer the discretion to decide whether what you are doing is or is not sufficient reason to leave your home ... you are breaking no laws going outside for a walk, going to check on another property, or going fishing ... but a cop gets to decide whether that is a good enough reason to be outside??? That is so wrong it's not funny, and the police know it, hence the numerous forces indicating publicly they will not enforce the new rule.

However, there were some cops out in Hamilton yesterday asking people in a plaza (where there is a Fortinos) what they were doing out of their homes ... so not all of them are supporting the departments standing on the matter ... so basically it's one big mess.

[rick_iles]

The problem is, they have given a police officer the discretion to decide whether what you are doing is or is not sufficient reason to leave your home ... you are breaking no laws going outside for a walk, going to check on another property, or going fishing ... but a cop gets to decide whether that is a good enough reason to be outside??? That is so wrong it's not funny, and the police know it, hence the numerous forces indicating publicly they will not enforce the new rule.

However, there were some cops out in Hamilton yesterday asking people in a plaza (where there is a Fortinos) what they were doing out of their homes ... so not all of them are supporting the departments standing on the matter ... so basically it's one big mess.

Oh, I’m sure there are officers out there that would get off on these new found authorities. The courts should get pretty busy !!!

[410001661]

I was a witness at an accident and a cop showed up at my house and knocked on my door. I answered the door and we started talking about the accident and he asked if he could come in and I said no, I will come out to discuss. I put a jacket on and went out to my porch and had the conversation with him.

He asked me why I did not want him in my house and all I said was the less you know about me the better. No different if a cop asked to look in my truck - I would say no way.

Name rank and serial number........that is all they get

[canadaman30]

Oh, I’m sure there are officers out there that would get off on these new found authorities.

Gilroys proly waiting for the call back from retirement. Be salivating of imposing dictatorship rule on the weak..

[impact]

I was just listening to the news a few minutes ago that Ottawa mayor Jim Watson will be calling Dougie in regards to the inter-provincial checkpoints with Quebec. Massive traffic line ups with huge delays for commuters. Totally unacceptable he said.

[MarkB]

I was just listening to the news a few minutes ago that Ottawa mayor Jim Watson will be calling Dougie in regards to the inter-provincial checkpoints with Quebec. Massive traffic line ups with huge delays for commuters. Totally unacceptable he said.

I saw his interview yesterday, indicating there is no evidence that the previous Quebec checkpoints did anything to reduce COVID. I do believe (almost certain) that the government is just shooting from the hip with all these restrictions ... just applying the philosophy of STOP EVERYTHING except breathing in your own home. They are wrong to keep people cooped up in their houses ... they should encourage people to be outside walking, exercising, hiking, fishing, etc. Transmission has the lowest possibility outside. LOWEST ... so encourage outdoor activities!

[impact]

I saw his interview yesterday, indicating there is no evidence that the previous Quebec checkpoints did anything to reduce COVID. I do believe (almost certain) that the government is just shooting from the hip with all these restrictions ... just applying the philosophy of STOP EVERYTHING except breathing in your own home. They are wrong to keep people cooped up in their houses ... they should encourage people to be outside walking, exercising, hiking, fishing, etc. Transmission has the lowest possibility outside. LOWEST ... so encourage outdoor activities!

It just goes to show you that it is a handful of corrupt people holding the whole nation hostage at this time.
People are now awake and taking action.

[MarkB]

It just goes to show you that it is a handful of corrupt people holding the whole nation hostage at this time.
People are now awake and taking action.

I'm not sure I'd put all the blame on corruption. I think part of this is that Ford and his people are in fear of being criticized by everyone, and so they just take what they think is the "safest" approach to all this stuff. The problem is, the safest approach will have us all go bankrupt and most people living with depression ... they are simply dealing with what is immediately in front of them (COVID) and guessing how to deal with it (stop all outdoor activities ... total guess) ... and in the end they are ticking off a lot of people who have a bit of common sense and know it's madness.

[impact]

More eggs on Fords face. Bad laws are to be challenged and repealed.

"Less than 48 hours after they went up, Ottawa Police Service checkpoints at interprovincial crossings are coming down.
In a statement, police said they would end their 24/7 presence on the bridges at 8 p.m. Tuesday."

"The checkpoints, announced Friday by Premier Doug Ford, infuriated commuters and caused hours long delays for some as they headed into Ottawa from West Quebec for work Monday. At times, the lineup of traffic stretched for 10 kilometres. Police did not issue any tickets and simply waved most cars through without stopping them, but they did turn back more than 30 vehicles throughout the day."

"Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson criticized the “chaos at the bridges” and said Monday he would take his concerns to the premier. Watson was not consulted before the provincial announcement."

https://ottawasun.com/news/local-new...c-2a490fc751a4

[rick_iles]

But yet, the airports continually allow planes from other covid hotspot countries!! The village idiot failed miserably on that issue, and continues to do so. The vaccine screwups are also his doing !!!!!
Ford has no culpability on these issues...