Sophie kicked Trudeau to the curb.

[Gilroy]

You are at least part right with this.
After the cold war ended 1989 or so, the western world thought that the way to wipe out communism was to bring China in from the cold as well - through economic development.
This hasn't worked out at all for the west. Although the people there are still dirt-poor, the country is very rich and is flexing it's economic muscle around the world - particularly in southeast asia and africa.

It's time to pull the plug on this failed experiment. China got a lot of attention because governments pushed companies to do business there, with capitalism replacing communism as the hoped for result. China is nothing special. India, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand - there is a long list of countries that western companies could work with instead of China. But there is resistance to leaving China because there is a generation of executives and company management that have spent their entire careers figuring out how to do business in China, who to bribe etc, and they don't want to abandon this.

Well the fact that they are still considered a "developing country" and get tariff breaks and favorable tax breaks at the expense of the west is pretty difficult to comprehend.

[werner.reiche]

If China was not a country to trust why did Harper make so many trade deals with them? I know its hard to hear me bring up Harpers name but its been awhile since you guys were in power.

Why? Because in 2006 when Harper was first elected, a) China wasn't causing problems - well except for the SARS thing, b) there was still hope that economic success in China would end communism and mostly c) the west was not aware of the level of industrial espionage going on.

We're sort of used to you bringing up Harper's name... because you do it *every* *friggin* *day*. But that's okay if that's what your obsession is.

[mosquito]

Why? Because in 2006 when Harper was first elected, a) China wasn't causing problems - well except for the SARS thing, b) there was still hope that economic success in China would end communism and mostly c) the west was not aware of the level of industrial espionage going on.

There is also the point that China is a country that is big enough you have to make deals with them, you want it in writing with quality and timelines specified and penalties and even then they will take every chance to screw you. Just look like what they did to India (millions of test kits that didn't work last year) and this year they have shut down all flights to India, including cargo flights containing essential equipment. The problem we have with Justlied is that any of the agreements he did with China seem to be on a we trust you basis.

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We're sort of used to you bringing up Harper's name... because you do it *every* *friggin* *day*. But that's okay if that's what your obsession is.

Of course, they want to distract from the failure we have now, so a $19 orange juice or charges (later cleared) of $80,000 in expenses (* all while ignoring Libs that were as much as 3X higher) are worse than the $100,000,000,000 in lies from the 2015 budget promises, lies about SNC, Jody Wilson R. COVID and etc.




or let's hear from Harper himself.



Those 3 modest deficits... the lie part alone to the end of 2019 was $100,000,000,000 and then the deficits in 2020+


Small deficits did become big deficits...

[410001661]

If China was not a country to trust why did Harper make so many trade deals with them? I know its hard to hear me bring up Harpers name but its been awhile since you guys were in power.

So do tell tell.........what has Trudeau has done over the last 6 years to undue all the evil deals that Harper allegedly has made with China?
Hell Mr. Fancy Socks and his party could not even show up in parliament for a vote on whether China committed geocide. Justin is China's BIAAATTTCH - and the Liberal party is the cheer team.

Justin messed this up beyond belief (complete FUBAR) and it is all on him so do NOT even try to blame it on Harper, or Sir John A McDonald because it is not sticking.

[Gilroy]

So do tell tell.........what has Trudeau has done over the last 6 years to undue all the evil deals that Harper allegedly has made with China?
Hell Mr. Fancy Socks and his party could not even show up in parliament for a vote on whether China committed geocide. Justin is China's BIAAATTTCH - and the Liberal party is the cheer team.

Justin messed this up beyond belief (complete FUBAR) and it is all on him so do NOT even try to blame it on Harper, or Sir John A McDonald because it is not sticking.

Election time will tell.

[Tigboy 304]

Election time will tell.

It sure will tell. It will tell how many votes he has bought with the cerb and numerous other free handouts as well the number of immigrants he has brought into the country that will be loyal to truedope. Poor Canada.

[MarkB]

You are at least part right with this.
After the cold war ended 1989 or so, the western world thought that the way to wipe out communism was to bring China in from the cold as well - through economic development.
This hasn't worked out at all for the west. Although the people there are still dirt-poor, the country is very rich and is flexing it's economic muscle around the world - particularly in southeast asia and africa.

It's time to pull the plug on this failed experiment. China got a lot of attention because governments pushed companies to do business there, with capitalism replacing communism as the hoped for result. China is nothing special. India, Cambodia, Vietnam, Thailand - there is a long list of countries that western companies could work with instead of China. But there is resistance to leaving China because there is a generation of executives and company management that have spent their entire careers figuring out how to do business in China, who to bribe etc, and they don't want to abandon this.

Well said ... you've connected the dots really well here.

[MarkB]

So do tell tell.........what has Trudeau has done over the last 6 years to undue all the evil deals that Harper allegedly has made with China?
Hell Mr. Fancy Socks and his party could not even show up in parliament for a vote on whether China committed geocide. Justin is China's BIAAATTTCH - and the Liberal party is the cheer team.

Justin messed this up beyond belief (complete FUBAR) and it is all on him so do NOT even try to blame it on Harper, or Sir John A McDonald because it is not sticking.

Make no mistake ... and I'm agreeing with you here ... it is the Justin Trudeau Party ... and Liberals bow to him, because they need his drama (acting, lying, bribing) antics to keep the Liberal party popularity up. And you're right, he bows to China ... he is their little puppet.

[MarkB]

Election time will tell.

Election time will only prove you can buy votes with something called CERB. Any party can do that. It's the easiest way to a win ... bribery.

[410001661]

Election time will tell.

Terry.....just curious if you ever get tired of the old bait and switch. Your leader is an incompetent boob and when you are confronted by facts you yell squirrel and change the subject - LOL.

You must have been a great copper - the good old blue wall of silence