Teachers Unions are at it again

[fratri]

Equate online learning to taking your boaters exam.... Everyone passes, but not too much learning takes place.

[Deer Hunter]

Equate online learning to taking your boaters exam.... Everyone passes, but not too much learning takes place.

Good Point. That the scary part, everybody seem to be passing as it is.
I don't believe virtual learning is the way of the future.
Kids need interaction and people skills, its not all jobs that you sit behind a computer for your whole shift.

[greatwhite]

Sorry but that means the past 15 years has been a dismal failure and it has not been. On the contrary it is working very well, it is primary the teachers that can not adjust.

Good Point. That the scary part, everybody seem to be passing as it is.
I don't believe virtual learning is the way of the future.
Kids need interaction and people skills, its not all jobs that you sit behind a computer for your whole shift.

[fratri]

Sorry but that means the past 15 years has been a dismal failure and it has not been. On the contrary it is working very well, it is primary the teachers that can not adjust.

For most kids it isn't.

[greatwhite]

I disagree for most it is and some not, high school better learn fast because all of University and College is gone that way, so your saying we should make sure they are not ready?? In school they expected I would be at best a minimum wage person yet here I a DBA / Programmer Analyst for 18 years now, go figure (I'm not cheap either). Kid's will learn and will learn much faster.

Should we take away from them the chance to learn faster or keep them under the rest of the world and make sure they are not ready.

Crap I took typing and my son types wayyy faster then me, they will learn unless some want to hold them back.

For most kids it isn't.

[trimmer21]

Apples to oranges comparison. Auto workers in the private sector are employed by companies that can pack up and take their business where ever they want. Teachers belong to public sector unions, employed by the government. When was the last time you saw a government of any political party play hardball with the teachers?

My point is that as each sector reduces in size,so will employment. Autoworkers thought they were indispensable the same way teachers do,now. Their union kept banging the drum for more and more until eventually,it collapsed. The same thing will happen with the public sector. We can't be oblivious to the fact that since the early 1990's,public service employment has been reduced by almost 75% despite the efforts of leftist governments and public sector unions to prop it up,hence,the wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth from the teacher's union's attack ads we're seeing today. The writing is on the wall. The education sector is about to shrink considerably more than it already has.

[Jakezilla]

I disagree for most it is and some not, high school better learn fast because all of University and College is gone that way, so your saying we should make sure they are not ready?? In school they expected I would be at best a minimum wage person yet here I a DBA / Programmer Analyst for 18 years now, go figure (I'm not cheap either). Kid's will learn and will learn much faster.

Should we take away from them the chance to learn faster or keep them under the rest of the world and make sure they are not ready.

Crap I took typing and my son types wayyy faster then me, they will learn unless some want to hold them back.

There is a big difference between online learning for elementary/secondary school students and post-secondary students/adults and it comes down to motivation. In theory post secondary students are much more motivated and want to be there. If these post-secondary students need to be "prepped" for online learning then someone failed them along the way. Read the material then do the work...it's not that difficult.

[impact]

Grade school kids need physical guidance and presence in order for them to learn properly as they get distracted easily.
Impossible to bring them back into focus on a tiny zoom computer monitor when there is 30 of them online all at once.

Bad enough trying to have them heading into the proper direction in a soccer game....lol
Been there ....seen that....lol

[Bowjob]

With online learning become the new norm, the teachers union can cry all they want. Truth is our province won't be needing as many teachers.
I'm sure Doug's telling the union you can take your classroom size demands and shove it. Go ahead go on strike, its not like kids are missing school. I'm sure teachers won't have the same past public support in the near future if they strike...

thattts not 100% true.

alot of classes have actually been cut a little smaller for online learning. i would assume it also depends on what grade/age group you are talking about tho.

i have cousins who are still in elementary school, when they had to switch to online classes they had less kids in each session.

i also guess it depends on the school board and how they runs things as well.

[greatwhite]

I never said once that inside school will completely go away. Grades 1 - 6 will be inside class. School with some teachers will always be needed because of the social aspect kid's need to learn to work together and we don't want everyone to become anti social. But let's face school from home is very possible. Classes can be taught from home especially math, sciences, English. I see kid's needing to go to school to do biology and chemistry labs, shop and cooking classes. I see a time coming soon where the teacher population can be reduced easily by 25-35%.
Mostly for grades 9-12 where kid's are old enough to stay home by there selves.