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May 4th, 2021, 07:42 AM
#111

Originally Posted by
Jakezilla
Any idea if the testing rate or CT cycles have stayed the same in the UK and Israel? That does have a direct effect on the numbers and the media/governments have proven themselves untrustworthy with facts and statistics throughout COVID. Restrictions in Texas and Florida have been lifted for some times as well. How do their vaccination per capita vs cases rate compare with the UK and Israel. The media often ignores any evidence contrary to the narrative. If we want the truth we can't cherry pick data and I am just looking for the truth.
Testing isn't always a good measure. Hospitalization rates are a better indicator. Here are COVID hospitalizations in the UK.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ons-in-the-uk/
On January 12, 2021, over 4.5 thousand individuals in the UK were admitted to hospital as a result of the coronavirus (COVID-19), the highest single amount since the start of the pandemic. The daily hospital cases started to rise significantly at the end of 2020 and into January 2021, however since then the number of hospitalizations fell dramatically as the UK managed to vaccinate millions against COVID-19.
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May 4th, 2021 07:42 AM
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May 4th, 2021, 08:06 AM
#112

Originally Posted by
WillieBeno
If you have an underlying medical condition vaccine or not you are high risk!
I have my name in at about 10 different locations from hot spots like Brampton/Mississauga to Niagara
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May 4th, 2021, 08:10 AM
#113

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
That graph resembles any other graph for a typical flu season to say that at this point the decline is due to vaccination is premature. Warmer weather, longer days = more people going outside and getting their vitamin D and the end of the virus season.
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May 4th, 2021, 08:15 AM
#114
I will only take the Pfizer so when they call me if it isn't for Pfizer I will turn it down, I also want 100% assurance that the second dose will be the same brand.

Originally Posted by
410001661
If you have an underlying medical condition vaccine or not you are high risk!
I have my name in at about 10 different locations from hot spots like Brampton/Mississauga to Niagara
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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May 4th, 2021, 08:22 AM
#115

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
I will only take the Pfizer so when they call me if it isn't for Pfizer I will turn it down, I also want 100% assurance that the second dose will be the same brand.
What about receiving your second shot within the 21 day manufacture's recommendation?
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May 4th, 2021, 09:04 AM
#116

Originally Posted by
WillieBeno
That graph resembles any other graph for a typical flu season to say that at this point the decline is due to vaccination is premature. Warmer weather, longer days = more people going outside and getting their vitamin D and the end of the virus season.
Canada and most of Europe have similar climates to the UK. If your theory had any merit we'd see the same sort of declines in cases and hospitalizations in Europe and Canada. We aren't.
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May 4th, 2021, 09:07 AM
#117
I have mentioned that in previous posts, yes if they cannot promise me the second shot on time then I will pass.
At some point they will be able to do it on time and I will wait.

Originally Posted by
WillieBeno
What about receiving your second shot within the 21 day manufacture's recommendation?
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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May 4th, 2021, 09:07 AM
#118

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Canada and most of Europe have similar climates to the UK. If your theory had any merit we'd see the same sort of declines in cases and hospitalizations in Europe and Canada. We aren't.
Could be due to lockdowns also.
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/e...ool?tab=trends
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May 4th, 2021, 09:11 AM
#119

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
Yes but cases are the metric by which the world is gauging COVID. Switching metrics is an easy way to escalate or downplay COVID.
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May 4th, 2021, 09:23 AM
#120

Originally Posted by
Jakezilla
Yes but cases are the metric by which the world is gauging COVID. Switching metrics is an easy way to escalate or downplay COVID.
Whether you measure hospitalizations or new cases the fact remains that those jurisdictions who vaccinated faster than Canada are getting the pandemic under control.
This week Alberta became the jurisdiction with the highest growth rate of infection in North America.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...ases-1.5412090
TORONTO -- Alberta is now reporting the highest number of COVID-19 cases per capita in all of Canada and the United States.
According to CTVNews.ca's tracker, there have been an average of 440.5 daily cases per million people in the last seven days, more than any other province or territory in Canada as well as every U.S. state. Cases had been trending upward since March and continue to climb.
COVID deniers claim that if we test less there will be fewer cases which is complete nonsense.