Have you had a COVID shot?

[fishfood]

Listing to a show now lady has family in Israel both her parents had sever reactions
One is going to need a kidney replacement from the vaccine. But they are not talking about these issues.

Vaccine deaths are other things they didn't die from the vaccine 2 days later it was heart failure.


Die within 28 days of covid and it's a covid death . Die within 48 hour's of the vaccine and it's natural causes . ?

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[Badenoch]

Here's a study from Australia that found a 7 to 8 percent increase in transmission for every 1 point reduction in RH:

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0818094028.htm

Yet, it's still the fault of the people for not following restrictions, so more restrictions will be imposed.

https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/mobile/w...ases-1.5412613

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It's less the fault of restrictions being followed and more the fault of the Canadian government being behind in acquiring vaccines. Where they are being administered cases are dropping faster than where they are not climactic conditions notwithstanding.

[WillieBeno]

Listing to a show now lady has family in Israel both her parents had sever reactions
One is going to need a kidney replacement from the vaccine. But they are not talking about these issues.

Vaccine deaths are other things they didn't die from the vaccine 2 days later it was heart failure.


Die within 28 days of covid and it's a covid death . Die within 48 hour's of the vaccine and it's natural causes . ?

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All sorts on here.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1100924840381516/

[fishfood]

All sorts on here.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1100924840381516/

Yet nobody is responsible for what happens lol.

Use at own risk

The fear out there is unbelievable but if you really dig deep the evidence shows the Mass population don't need to be vaccinated.

Crazy the amount pressure to get everyone injected with an experimental vaccine that don't need it .

What's the risk vs rewards to any under 40?
The vaccine could do far more damage to this group for what ?

It should be no different than the flu shot.
Recommended it to the 60 +plus. That age group and above are responsible for just about 95% of all Ontario's deaths . They would save a lot more lives if they focus in this group for their second shots. Some recommendations are for 65 plus they don't show much of the 70,s they seem to push the 60 to 80 age together lol.


What happens when the fake antibodies wear off will it make you more susceptible to the virus by making it worse?


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[GW11]

It's less the fault of restrictions being followed and more the fault of the Canadian government being behind in acquiring vaccines. Where they are being administered cases are dropping faster than where they are not climactic conditions notwithstanding.

Then how did we get down to around 100 cases a day in Ontario last summer without vaccines?

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[Badenoch]

Then how did we get down to around 100 cases a day in Ontario last summer without vaccines?

My supposition is that the first wave which was much smaller occurred primarily in institutions and during a complete lockdown that people followed more closely. The second wave began as it got colder and we moved inside where spread occurs more often. The third wave is driven by variants aided by a populace that is not as rigorous about following lockdown requirements. Throw in sloppy border controls and poor vaccine acquisition and distribution to further compound the problem. It is possible climactic conditions were a contributing factor but can hardly account for all the rises and falls.

[WillieBeno]

yet nobody is responsible for what happens lol.

Use at own risk

the fear out there is unbelievable but if you really dig deep the evidence shows the mass population don't need to be vaccinated.

Crazy the amount pressure to get everyone injected with an experimental vaccine that don't need it .

What's the risk vs rewards to any under 40?
The vaccine could do far more damage to this group for what ?

It should be no different than the flu shot.
Recommended it to the 60 +plus. That age group and above are responsible for just about 95% of all ontario's deaths . They would save a lot more lives if they focus in this group for their second shots. Some recommendations are for 65 plus they don't show much of the 70,s they seem to push the 60 to 80 age together lol.


What happens when the fake antibodies wear off will it make you more susceptible to the virus by making it worse?


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99.7% recovery rate

[greatwhite]

Actually about 98.5% If you want to get technical

99.7% recovery rate

[GW11]

My supposition is that the first wave which was much smaller occurred primarily in institutions and during a complete lockdown that people followed more closely. The second wave began as it got colder and we moved inside where spread occurs more often. The third wave is driven by variants aided by a populace that is not as rigorous about following lockdown requirements. Throw in sloppy border controls and poor vaccine acquisition and distribution to further compound the problem. It is possible climactic conditions were a contributing factor but can hardly account for all the rises and falls.

I disagree about the first wave being smaller, but we're both just making our own guesses. It appeared smaller because of our limited capabilities then. They were testing 5000 to 8000 per day versus 40000 to 60000 a day now. Positivity was close to the same although in April of 2020 it got as high as 17 percent. Much higher than it's been in this wave. Criteria for testing at that time was entirely different, because tests were so limited. Serological tests have shown in many of the provinces that covid was about 4x as widespread by last spring as was being indicted by PCR tests. We peaked last April at around 650 cases in one day. Multiply that by 4 and we're not far from the numbers today. More contagious variants would probably make the difference between 2500/day and 4000/day in this wave, or maybe just complacency about guidelines.

I do agree that countries with high rates of vaccination undeniably seeing lower rates of infection, but I don't believe that can be solely attributed to vaccines.

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[fishfood]

Then how did we get down to around 100 cases a day in Ontario last summer without vaccines?

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I set up at least 100 weddings last summer. Yet the numbers still fell and then the party goers still had to party too lol.





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