Port Hope COVID discrimination

[MarkB]

So a buddy of mine researched for hours whether he could go fishing in Port Hope.
The town lifted their restrictions on lands accessing the river, I believe May 12. He could not find anything on line
indicating the restrictions were extended, or new restrictions were put in place. He drove there, and even talk to some shop owners, and some people walking by the river ... they indicated that people are fishing on the river.

Then some guy in a car from the local newspaper tells him they can't fish, police are issuing tickets to people coming from outside of Port Hope ... locals can fish there, but anyone outside can't ... tickets issued for "violating" the stay at home order. They left after that.

But tell me ... these cops are issuing tickets to only people fishing that come from outside Port Hope, saying it's non essential.
So, fishing for the residents of Port Hope is essential, but if you're outside of Port Hope, it's not essential??? WTF???
Does Port Hope not realize that we have a PROVINCIAL fishing license that we all equally pay for, and the river is managed PROVINCIALLY ... not locally???

PORT HOPE DOES NOT OWN THE GANNY RIVER ... this is pure BS!! It is discrimination ... big time. I hope people bring them to court, heck I'd go class action on this and make sure they are put in their place!

[finsfurfeathers]

Then some guy in a car from the local newspaper tells him they can't fish, police are issuing tickets to people coming from outside of Port Hope ... locals can fish there, but anyone outside can't ... tickets issued for "violating" the stay at home order. They left after that.

The highlighted pretty much says it all. If you want to listen to some guy go ahead. There is no travel restriction in the sense that it is written you can not leave your health unit. If one was given a ticket most likely it wasn't for fishing or violating the stay at home order but for accessing areas closed to public or distancing/mask requirements.
Now if that peeved you take a look at whats happening in Ajax to restrict access to residents only and don't get me started on the innisville to keswick N.I.M.B.Y's

[MarkB]

The highlighted pretty much says it all. If you want to listen to some guy go ahead. There is no travel restriction in the sense that it is written you can not leave your health unit. If one was given a ticket most likely it wasn't for fishing or violating the stay at home order but for accessing areas closed to public or distancing/mask requirements.
Now if that peeved you take a look at whats happening in Ajax to restrict access to residents only and don't get me started on the innisville to keswick N.I.M.B.Y's

No, this is not correct.

Firstly, the cops were ticketing people that were out of town ... here's an article:

https://globalnews.ca/news/7809518/p...ergency-order/

My buddy at first challenged what the reporter was saying, and then the reporter pointed to this article (although I admit those charges were laid at end April, when the access restrictions were still in place). Police were present (visually seen by my buddy) and the reporter indicated they were asking people fishing that day to identify where they resided. If they were out of town ... they were charged under the Emergency Order ... my buddy didn't stick around, but he knows the cops were there.

Also, in this article, why did the police feel the need to state ... we won't ask you where you live ... but Emergency Order. Why was that even mentioned? Is it because they are using the Emergency Order as an excuse to card people ... and keep outsiders off the Ganny?

If this is correct, it seems in the local police's interpretation (and certainly what the report was advocating), you should not travel to go fishing ... apparently that is non-essential. But if you're a local, it is okay ... go figure.

Perhaps the reason is Port Hope just doesn't like fishermen from outside Port Hope??

[MarkB]

This article seems to indicate charges were laid this weekend, May 15th.

https://kawarthanow.com/2021/05/16/p...at-home-order/

And here is confirmation that the Ganaraska Access Restriction in Port Hope were lifted on May 7th.

https://www.porthope.ca/en/news/land...on-lifted.aspx

So, if these are both correct, what gives? You don't need to wear a mask while your fishing, so unless these guys were hugging each other ...

[MarkB]

Here's another one. The video was taken yesterday ... my buddy actually is in the video (so we know for a fact it was yesterday). See the 3:25 time mark in the video ... you will see the cops approaching people close to the river (they were at least 6 ft apart, one person on the rock, one on the path, I know that exact point ... it's EASY 6ft, heck the rock itself is probably 8 ft wide) ... then they start talking to fishermen ... this was yesterday ... the fishermen were in the water, and not close to anyone ... go figure when you have a 14 ft rod that it's easy to maintain your social distancing space!

WHY were these fishermen stopped and questioned? What part of the law did they break?

https://todaysnorthumberland.ca/2021...rotection-act/

[greatwhite]

Did they get a ticket and were they asked to leave?

[MikePal]

Sounds like they were laying charges in contravention of the stay-at-home-orders, ie: "Non-essential travel".

[GW11]

Sounds like they were laying charges in contravention of the stay-at-home-orders, ie: "Non-essential travel".

Just heard on the radio that 4 fishermen in Port Hipe were fined $880 each for being "outside their region".

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[MarkB]

Did they get a ticket and were they asked to leave?

On Saturday, 4 guys were charged, given tickets.
Yesterday, several anglers were cautioned and told to leave. My buddy was there.

In this article, check out the video at the bottom (https://todaysnorthumberland.ca/2021...rotection-act/), which WAS taken yesterday (my buddy actually appears in some of the footage and his only trip to Port Hope this year was yesterday, and he was wearing those clothes at a certain hole, so this is fact) ... you can see the fishermen all lining up and exiting the river ... in the video just prior to that scene at the 3 min 30 second mark, you can see the police approach the anglers.

WHAT LAW DID THEY BREAK??

[MarkB]

Just heard on the radio that 4 fishermen in Port Hipe were fined $880 each for being "outside their region".

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Yeah, and my buddy was specifically told that residents of Port Hope could fish there. So there you go!
Apparently Port Hope owns the Ganny.

What a load of nonsense.