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May 28th, 2021, 06:16 AM
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The Expert Advisory Panel : Cross Border Travel
The Liberals 'Expert Panel" has come out with how they will handle Travel when the restrictions are eventually lifted.
Since some of you travel a lot...so might be of interest
It's a long document but the image below reflects the activity and Table 1 at the link summarizes all the 'new' requirements.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...3qbXZqvNCoM0eI
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May 28th, 2021 06:16 AM
# ADS
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May 28th, 2021, 06:45 AM
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Summary of evidence
"Between March 10 and 16, 2021, exempt travellers comprised 31% of all international air arrivals and 93% of land arrivals.
In December 2020, preliminary results from a Canadian pilot study found that 2.8 exempt workers for every 100 exempt workers at land and air borders tested positive for COVID-19."
"Two other Canadian pilots found zero cases among exempt travellers crossing by land"
What a crock. Exempt travellers clearly indicate there is no problem.
These people are totally out of control and simply pushing a jab for everyone.
PCR testing is flawed and they continue to use it in order to push their narrative.
The court dates can't come soon enough.
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May 28th, 2021, 07:04 AM
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Isn’t “liberals” and “expert “ an oxymoron ???
“If you’re not a Liberal by twenty, you have no heart. If you’re not a Conservative by forty, you have no brain.”
-Winston Churchill
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May 28th, 2021, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by
rick_iles
Isn’t “liberals” and “expert “ an oxymoron ???
This is the first time I can remember when the Liberal's finally accepted they were way out of their league when it came to establishing Covid regulations and the sought out professionals to form an 'Expert Panel'
Last edited by MikePal; May 28th, 2021 at 12:32 PM.
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May 28th, 2021, 11:59 AM
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I love this statement:
The costs and hardships from lengthier mandatory quarantine in government-authorized accommodations may be acceptable in countries such as New Zealand and Australia that are pursuing an elimination strategy.
However for some reason the same goal is not acceptable here in Canada I really find that amazing. Strange, how the Liberals followed the lead of Australia and New Zealand on firearm registration and bans, that they have become so anal, when it comes to protecting Canadians from economic disasters through life threatening diseases. How many Canadians have been kill by this virus. You mean to say if the implementation of such a policy were to save the life of one person it wouldn’t be worth it?
You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
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May 28th, 2021, 12:04 PM
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There's new political muscle in the United States pushing for a return to more regular travel between Canada and the United States after more than a year of pandemic-related disruptions.
The top member of the U.S. Senate, Chuck Schumer, has written a letter to members of the Biden administration making several demands regarding the border.
Trudeau should tell them to pound sand
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May 28th, 2021, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by
Gun Nut
However for some reason the same goal is not acceptable here in Canada I really find that amazing. Strange, how the Liberals followed the lead of Australia and New Zealand on firearm registration and bans, that they have become so anal, when it comes to protecting Canadians from economic disasters through life threatening diseases.
It's easy for an Island nation to do 100% travel restrictions and Quarantine....not so easy when you have a 9,000 km land crossing that has the RCMP helping refugees cross it illegally and an PM who refuses to stop international travel.
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May 28th, 2021, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by
MikePal
The Liberals 'Expert Panel" has come out with how they will handle Travel when the restrictions are eventually lifted.
Since some of you travel a lot...so might be of interest
It's a long document but the image below reflects the activity and Table 1 at the link summarizes all the 'new' requirements.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...3qbXZqvNCoM0eI

Definitely makes the case for getting the shots if you ever want to leave Canada again. Very encouraged today by the announcement from the Premier that second dose timing is being accelerated.
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May 28th, 2021, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by
MikePal
It's easy for an Island nation to do 100% travel restrictions and Quarantine....not so easy when you have a 9,000 km land crossing that has the RCMP helping refugees cross it illegally and an PM who refuses to stop international travel.

Well MikePal I've used that same old argument, to explain to the Liberals why their approach to gun control wouldn't work the same here as it does in Australia and Zealand but it does seem to prevent them from following the lead of those island groups when it come to banning firearms, so why should it make a difference when it comes to quarantine for diseases' prevention and elimination. Meanwhile this current pandemic has appeared to have racked up quite a body counts how much of a body count have those assault style looking firearm manage to rack up over the same period? Plus add in the devastation it has done to the economy and the fact that our great grandchildren will most likely be saddle with that debt to pay off well into their golden years.
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
Last edited by Gun Nut; May 28th, 2021 at 01:38 PM.
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May 28th, 2021, 02:01 PM
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Just read the document. I don't see this as being sustainable in the long run. Sure get your vaccine but wait until a variant starts getting by the vaccine and you will be in the same boat as the unvaccinated, which they elude to in the document.
If land border crossings return to anything close to normal the testing will not be able to keep up. The 7 day quarantine for land travelers is not practical in any way. It may be practical for people returning home but for those travelling to another country it doesn't really work.
These restrictions will continue to be an impediment the resumption of normal trade and trade practices. It won't be long until the travel industry or what's left of it starts to push back.
COVID will become the new flu, the vaccines will not be able to keep up with the variants and this system of control will eventually collapse. The Liberals and Democrats will want to keep this going for as long as possible but I think a change in government on either side will adjust these policies.
I wouldn't get the vaccine for the sake of travel at this time, especially not Canada to US travel. The smart money is to wait and see how this plays out. This social and medical experiment is coming to a close and none of this is sustainable.