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June 18th, 2021, 09:24 AM
#21
At the end of the day, stop testing healthy people, resume normal life, the people who want a seasonal flu shot can have it and end the scamdemic rhetoric. Otherwise, the governments are contributing to a "Crime against Humanity"
All 10 Nuremberg code principles have been violated with the experimental vaccines.
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June 18th, 2021 09:24 AM
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June 18th, 2021, 09:33 AM
#22
Has too much time on their hands
The UK is currently experiencing an exponential increase in cases despite being heavily vaccinated.
The common denominator is no longer common...
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June 18th, 2021, 10:29 AM
#23

Originally Posted by
GW11
The UK is currently experiencing an exponential increase in cases despite being heavily vaccinated.
The common denominator is no longer common...
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Well that's odd......that's not what the media is saying......actually.....the media has been quiet on this......weird......
Almost like it doesn't fit the narrative.......
This isn't a test run................Enjoy er'.......
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June 18th, 2021, 10:30 AM
#24

Originally Posted by
fishfood
J Ben how many are actually recorded ?
I was Ill back in 2019 many people got the same thing not one of them has had it since or have had covid.
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That in part is why estimates for asymptotic people and natural immunity are all over the map.. so be generous.
Assume for every person that is tested, and is actually positive. There’s another person ( 100%) or three. That still works out to about <10% of the population…
assume 700%
maybe around 15% with natural immunity.
Anecdotally. If you have 100 friends. How many did or think they might have had it? If just 2% of the population has tested positive. With a positivity rate about the same..
Can’t be that many asymptomatic or sick, but not tested people spreading it……
Me, I know a handful diagnosed with it or suspect they might have had it.
From hundreds.
It’s funny in a way, because there have been threads about how “serious” it is etc etc. calling everything into question. Want to choose to believe data is being manipulated? We can. But then all data, from everywhere/country is dirty bath water. Including….
so
how many people do you personally know. If a lot, that suggest a lot of people spreading it. If just a few….
which means “natural immunity”….is a long way off….
the rest is just like climate change and what can be done, should be done etc etc
Last edited by JBen; June 18th, 2021 at 10:39 AM.
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June 18th, 2021, 10:59 AM
#25

Originally Posted by
LiveBates
Well that's odd......that's not what the media is saying......actually.....the media has been quiet on this......weird......

Almost like it doesn't fit the narrative.......
you should perhaps watch different news. I saw coverage of that exact issue on CTV last night, saying they are holding off on their planned reopening due to this increase.
Its easy to just say stuff thinking/hoping its correct, but when its just false, then its no better then the fear mongering the media is promoting. If were going to call out the media and politicians for lies and fear mongering, shouldn't we hold ourselves to that standard as well?
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June 18th, 2021, 11:16 AM
#26
Just with respect to the “Delta” variant.?
The UK peaked in late Jan. Then fell off. Data ( that’s almost becoming a dirty word
) shows it’s predominantly hitting young age groups..those not vaccinated.
Isn’t it summer in the UK?
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June 18th, 2021, 11:21 AM
#27
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
JBen
Just with respect to the “Delta” variant.?
The UK peaked in late Jan. Then fell off. Data ( that’s almost becoming a dirty word

) shows it’s predominantly hitting young age groups..those not vaccinated.
Isn’t it summer in the UK?
I was waiting for that...lol. The UK has a vastly different climate than ours and it's not so much about "summer" as RH. The UK is at its driest in May and June.
My guess is that variants are infecting vaccinated people too, but that doesn't fit the narrative so it isn't reported. It must be just young unvaccinated people driving the spread... or so we're told.
If it isn't the Delta variant, what's next? There will be others, that's how it works.
Like so many other things with this, wait and see.
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June 18th, 2021, 11:40 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
FishHog
you should perhaps watch different news. I saw coverage of that exact issue on CTV last night, saying they are holding off on their planned reopening due to this increase.
Its easy to just say stuff thinking/hoping its correct, but when its just false, then its no better then the fear mongering the media is promoting. If were going to call out the media and politicians for lies and fear mongering, shouldn't we hold ourselves to that standard as well?
Sure....sounds great....please list off the news I "Should" be listening too.....I will add it to the all the others I don't listen to. You have to realize, from what I've seen over the last year and a half, I don't believe any of them. I look into reports when I need to once every few weeks, but other than that, I'm usually fishing or boating. As far as I'm concerned....all media lost they're standards long ago.......and in an odd way, I kinda' feel bad for those that dedicate majority of the time believing what the hear on mainstream......
Last edited by LiveBates; June 18th, 2021 at 12:14 PM.
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June 18th, 2021, 12:26 PM
#29
There was supposed to be a smiley after that.
Their climate is temperate. Compared to us, they don’t get the extremes. Warmer winters ( well above 0) and cooler summers. Their traditional flu season is exactly like ours, Dec-Mar.
Their case counts fell drastically in Feb. Their spring is a lot like ours though with average temps in the teens…..just like us. They are also far more densely populated.
Can we think of reasons why they might be so different from us. Other than vaccines or a world wide manipulation of data?
They are around 50% fully vaccinated. That’s still half the population not.
I guess one thing to look for is fatalities. If fatalities flatline, but new cases spike. That might suggest fewer people 50+ are getting it, and it is predominantly younger people. Cases up, deaths down.
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June 18th, 2021, 01:07 PM
#30
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
JBen
There was supposed to be a smiley after that.
Their climate is temperate. Compared to us, they don’t get the extremes. Warmer winters ( well above 0) and cooler summers. Their traditional flu season is exactly like ours, Dec-Mar.
Their case counts fell drastically in Feb. Their spring is a lot like ours though with average temps in the teens…..just like us. They are also far more densely populated.
Can we think of reasons why they might be so different from us. Other than vaccines or a world wide manipulation of data?
They are around 50% fully vaccinated. That’s still half the population not.
I guess one thing to look for is fatalities. If fatalities flatline, but new cases spike. That might suggest fewer people 50+ are getting it, and it is predominantly younger people. Cases up, deaths down.
No worries JBen, I caught the tone that time... all good.
That might be the case. We'll see it unfold there over the next few weeks. It's definitely the angle of the MSM.
I'm mostly curious about how it will be reported and how many infections are truly just amongst unvaccinated younger people. If enough older people are already vaccinated (or were previously infected), shouldn't the cycle of transmission be interrupted to the point that we no longer see huge spikes? They haven't hit numbers like that yet, but it's headed in that direction.
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