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[Bushwhacker]

Disgusting!

"The head of a commission examining sexual abuse in France’s Catholic Church put the possible number of child victims at more than 10,000 on Tuesday, portending a public reckoning in a country where church officials long stalled efforts to investigate complicity."

"The Independent Commission on Sexual Abuse in the Church, set up two years ago with the approval of French church officials, has so far received more than 6,500 testimonies from victims and witnesses on incidents alleged to have happened in the past seven decades."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...51b_story.html

This isn't a Catholic problem, but rather a homosexual problem. It started when homosexuals infiltrated the clergy. The church erred in its cover ups, but child abuse isn't some sort of Catholic virtue or secret church ritual...there is a lot of anti-Catholic rhetoric & propaganda in this regard.

[MikePal]

When they mostly contain children then it becomes newsworthy.

You have to remember back then, the vast majority (from what records they do have) of children died of sickness and disease. This would have been exacerbated in the Indigenous communities due to the fact they would not have any immunity to the disease introduced by the 'white man'.

Don't get me wrong, yes children were abused and killed by members of the clergy and that ran the schools and hopefully that will be bought to light and atoned. But it was not the vast majority of the children buried in those graves.

In 1900, 30.4% of all deaths occurred among children aged less than 5 years; in 1997, that percentage was only 1.4%. In 1900, the three leading causes of death were pneumonia, tuberculosis (TB), and diarrhea and enteritis, which (together with diphtheria) caused one third of all deaths (Figure 2). Of these deaths, 40% were among children aged less than 5 years (1).

[Cameracutter]

Perhaps church could share what records they do have? Oh right, they have been refusing that request for a while now.

[impact]

This isn't a Catholic problem, but rather a homosexual problem. It started when homosexuals were permitted to join the clergy. The church erred in its cover ups, but child abuse isn't some sort of Catholic virtue or secret church ritual...there is a lot of anti-Catholic rhetoric & propaganda in this regard.

This is a worldwide organized pedophile crime syndicate.
A simple search will reveal that most if not all countries are affected.
It all ultimately points to the Vatican.

"WARSAW, June 28 (Reuters) - The Catholic Church in Poland is facing a wave of allegations of sexual abuse, church authorities said on Monday, as they laid out statistics on the extent of abuse amid an investigation into alleged cover-ups by a senior clergyman."

"The Church said that between July 1, 2018, and Dec. 31, 2020, it had received 368 reports regarding the sexual abuse of minors."

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ns-2021-06-28/

[410001661]

This isn't a Catholic problem, but rather a homosexual problem. It started when homosexuals were permitted to join the clergy. The church erred in its cover ups, but child abuse isn't some sort of Catholic virtue or secret church ritual...there is a lot of anti-Catholic rhetoric & propaganda in this regard.

Wow!!! Now correct me if I am wrong how is this NOT the church's problem when they have catholic priests who may be gay that are committing sexual abuse on children? Sounds to me like you are a Liberal blaming the gun and not the criminal for shooting someone.

[johnjyb]

Wow!!! Now correct me if I am wrong how is this NOT the church's problem when they have catholic priests who may be gay that are committing sexual abuse on children? Sounds to me like you are a Liberal blaming the gun and not the criminal for shooting someone.

With this same statement, does this not also mean it is completely the fault of the Liberal government for allowing sexual abuse in the CAF? They may not be directly involved, but by saying and doing nothing they are at least condoning the abuse.
john

[MarkB]

In the end, this is a tragedy, and the focus should be on the victims ... not finger pointing.
We all need to take responsibility. Canadians in general do not know how to stand up to wrongs ... we just comply,
don't want to be seen as stepping out of line ... we all good children, lining up to get our two COVID vaccine shots ...

Sometimes that compliance is good, sometimes it's bad ... we need to wake up.
There is no such thing as sitting by and blaming the system ... we are all responsible ... if we do not act against it.

Catholic church, government, every white individual that lived during that time ... they all knew what was happening.
There's no ways that many children are murdered ... and it stays a secret. So everyone at the time is complicit in this crime.

If we get stuck in this finger pointing exercise ... you will not take personal accountability ... and then there is no material
change.

Are we going to change, and not allow something like this to happen again? Will we try and make right, the wrong (even though
I have no idea how you can possibly right a murdered child ... it's sickening).

Next time you look at your young daughter, son, niece or nephew ... just think of someone doing that to them, and the whole of society
allowing it to happen, as if it is acceptable. That's exactly what happened to those poor children and families.

[Cameracutter]

In the end, this is a tragedy, and the focus should be on the victims ... not finger pointing.
We all need to take responsibility. Canadians in general do not know how to stand up to wrongs ... we just comply,
don't want to be seen as stepping out of line ... we all good children, lining up to get our two COVID vaccine shots ...

Sometimes that compliance is good, sometimes it's bad ... we need to wake up.
There is no such thing as sitting by and blaming the system ... we are all responsible ... if we do not act against it.

Catholic church, government, every white individual that lived during that time ... they all knew what was happening.
There's no ways that many children are murdered ... and it stays a secret. So everyone at the time is complicit in this crime.

If we get stuck in this finger pointing exercise ... you will not take personal accountability ... and then there is no material
change.

Are we going to change, and not allow something like this to happen again? Will we try and make right, the wrong (even though
I have no idea how you can possibly right a murdered child ... it's sickening).

Next time you look at your young daughter, son, niece or nephew ... just think of someone doing that to them, and the whole of society
allowing it to happen, as if it is acceptable. That's exactly what happened to those poor children and families.

Agee 100 percent. Currently, “we” are being asked to listen and get informed. That’s all. Doesn’t seem like a large ask.

[mosquito]

In 1900 in Canada 1 in 5 did not live to their 5th year. I didn't see any historic data on older children but we know Polio, TB, diarrhea, diphtheria, influenza and many other disease caused a high mortality rate in the pre-antibiotics/pre-penicillan era.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ortality-rate/

The Indian act included the requirement to educate, underfunding, the govt trying to push it all on the church, poor planning and execution... lots of blame to go around. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" - many attributed to this quote

https://www.catholiceducation.org/en...-question.html
"Tragic problems existed at some of the residential schools and, for the most part, they failed in their purpose of elevating the native people. Nevertheless, many natives have fond memories of their residential school experience and have an image of the residential school as a happy, loving place. A number have even told me that their time at the residential school was the happiest of their lives."


Simplification of a problem is not understanding it, the media and especially some politicians specialize in NOT understanding or contributing to a positive outcome!

Since the media doesn't want to talk but to spin here is a bit of history and facts...


To redress the legacy of residential schools and advance reconciliation, in its final report the Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada called on governments, educational and religious institutions, civil society groups and all Canadians to take action on the 94 Calls to Action it identified. On December 15, 2015, the Prime Minister reiterated the Government of Canada’s commitment to implement the recommendations of the commission.

Many pre-existing programs within the Government of Canada already undertake work that responds to the Calls to Action. The information highlighted on these webpages relates to recent developments.
https://www.rcaanc-cirnac.gc.ca/eng/.../1557511412801



I'll say it again, time to toss the Indian act and race based policies into the 19th century waste bin, those that need help should get it, incorporate and make accountable the reserves and as a redress for the residential school system free University and some other benefits continued until say 2050 but it is the 21st century ... bring on star drives and flying cars... not racial ghettos and dirty water!

[MikePal]

Catholic church, government, every white individual that lived during that time ... they all knew what was happening.
There's no ways that many children are murdered ... and it stays a secret. So everyone at the time is complicit in this crime.

The way this story is been reported on by the MSM...people are being led to believe all those 'unmarked' graves are filled with children who were murdered.

Fact is the vast majority died of disease, diseases that killed up to 50% of indigenous children back at the turn of the last century. There was no outrage back then because it was a fact of life (or death in this case).