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July 10th, 2021, 11:14 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
Cameracutter
It’s flattering that you care so much about what forums I post in, I think it’s probably unhealthy to be so obsessed about one individual. I do appreciate you “checking me out” and all.
Honestly-if You despise the topics in the Off Topics section(and perhaps this Forum as well)and vehemently oppose much of the posters-why bother ?
I really could not care less, do whatever pleases You....just can not wrap my head around "spending time" is a micro society, where there is nothing what one agrees with.
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July 10th, 2021 11:14 PM
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July 11th, 2021, 07:10 AM
#12
Trying to convert groups of hunter/gathers that wonder about in a kind of nomadic lifestyle over fixed territories, content upon just eking out an existence, into settlers having an agriculture food base and an appetite for wealth generation through the destruction and exploitation of the natural world, makes for a real cultural genocide. That was the starting point.
Isolating their children, to prevent their adult population from passing on their cultural heritage, is where it eventually ended up. It would appear that the pathway to assimilation became corrupted over lack of adequate oversight, leaving patch works of unmark graves, in the locations of a number of residential schools.
Serves as a testimony to our ____________________ .
Now if you had words, that could be placed in that underlined space what would they be?.
You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
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July 11th, 2021, 07:17 AM
#13
Despise? What would give you that idea? Vehemently oppose? More like disagree with.
I was unaware that this forum was reserved as a “safe space” for the conservative Christian right wing only.
Good to know all opinions are welcome.
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July 11th, 2021, 11:29 AM
#14

Originally Posted by
Gun Nut
Trying to convert groups of hunter/gathers that wonder about in a kind of nomadic lifestyle over fixed territories, content upon just eking out an existence, into settlers having an agriculture food base and an appetite for wealth generation through the destruction and exploitation of the natural world, makes for a real cultural genocide. That was the starting point.
It was the Indian Act that destroyed their culture. The Indiginous became lazy and stopped the nomadic hunter gatherer lifestyle...much easier to wait till the supply planes came in and drop off their groceries . All they have to do now is cash the 'colonist' cheques they were sent, drive their snowmobiles /ATVs (no more dog sleds ) down to the store to pick up their food. They stopped practicing their culture in lew of a warm house , electricity and TVs.
I might sound a little jaded but, unlike most 'white' Canadians, I have actually lived, worked and spent time socializing on Cree reservations while I worked in Northern Manitoba. I know how the vast majority live. Great people for the most part and some very well educated. But few if any carried on a nomadic hunter gatherer lifestyle.
It wasn't the residential schools persee (yes some took advantage of the schooling to seek an education) it was them that voluntarily assimilated into the 'colonialist' lifestyle compliments of the money they received thru the Indian Act. Now with vehicles, snowmachines, ATVs, houses, free money etc they gave up or 'killed' their own native culture and language. Other than ceremonial events, they rarely show a glimpse of their past. Their culture evolved away from what they were.
I'll bet there is but a handful of Indigenous people far up north that live off the land anymore.
Last edited by MikePal; July 11th, 2021 at 02:05 PM.
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July 11th, 2021, 12:48 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
Cameracutter
It’s flattering that you care so much about what forums I post in, I think it’s probably unhealthy to be so obsessed about one individual. I do appreciate you “checking me out” and all.
Sorry to burst your ego bubble but the last thing I'd want to do is check you out, you just happen to stick out like a sore thumb.
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July 11th, 2021, 02:04 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
MikePal
It was the Indian Act that destroyed their culture. The Indiginous became lazy and stopped the nomadic hunter gatherer lifestyle...much easier to wait till the supply planes came in and drop off their groceries . All they have to do now is cash the 'colonist' cheques they were sent, drive their snowmobiles /ATVs (no more dog sleds ) down to the store to pick up their food. They stopped practicing their culture in lew of a warm house , electricity and TVs.
I might sound a little jaded but, unlike most 'white' Canadians, I have actually lived, worked and spent time socializing on Cree reservations while I worked in Northern Manitoba. I know how the vast majority live. Great people for the most part and some very well educated. But few if any carried on a nomadic hunter gatherer lifestyle.
It wasn't the residential schools persee (yes some took advantage of the schooling to seek and education) it was voluntary assimilating into 'colonialist' lifestyle compliment of the money they received thru the Indian Act. Now with vehicles, snowmachines, ATVs, fixed houses paychecks etc they killed their own native culture and language. Other than ceremonial events, they rarely show a glimpse of their past. Their culture evolved away from what they were.
I'll bet there is but a handful of Indigenous people far up north that live off the land anymore.
Yes, they fell into all of the bad habits some of us have, we definitely did a bang up job of assimilating them. They, like predatory wildlife, have become opportunistic scavengers. We didn't really committed genocide, we just overran their continent so badly, they were unable to adequate pursue their traditional ways of life, so they ended up, falling back on our colonial welfare plan. We definitely have made many of them, what they are today, and yes, the Indian Act was a large contributor in seeing that they remained suppressed. It would appear we have done ourselves proud, gentlemen.
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
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July 11th, 2021, 02:13 PM
#17
Wow you twisted that nice...
they were unable to adequate pursue their traditional ways of life, so they ended up, falling back on our colonial welfare plan"
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They demanded 'reparations' from the government. What they did with the money was adopt the easier life and abandon their culture. Nothing then or now stoped them from their traditional lifestyle. ...ie: how many would give up their satellite TV, computers, and IPhones to go back to spending their evenings telling stories, in their native tongues, of their heritage and culture around a campfire every evening...like the good old days.
Last edited by MikePal; July 11th, 2021 at 03:27 PM.
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July 11th, 2021, 03:38 PM
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July 11th, 2021, 03:47 PM
#19
Long before the Indian Act the Hudson's Bay Company and the Northwest Company permanently changed the culture of most Northern FNs from subsistence nomadic hunter gatherers to one based on trading furs with the colonies in exchange for goods and services. The culture loss started long before the feds got involved.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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July 11th, 2021, 04:42 PM
#20

Originally Posted by
Species8472
Long before the Indian Act the Hudson's Bay Company and the Northwest Company permanently changed the culture of most Northern FNs from subsistence nomadic hunter gatherers to one based on trading furs with the colonies in exchange for goods and services. The culture loss started long before the feds got involved.
^^^^^ what he said!^^^^^