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July 25th, 2021, 05:26 PM
#61
This thread tweaked me to take a look at my Blue Spruce and yes one was hit. The damage is inside closer to the truck, I still have a solid blue fringe. Looks like it bouncing back as well...
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July 25th, 2021 05:26 PM
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July 25th, 2021, 06:18 PM
#62

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
WOW!! The government won't allow homeowners to use original formula Killex that even works on crab and quack grass,but,they allow the use of that stuff that's deadly to every living creature that eats insects that are sprayed with it. In the right concentration,that stuff can kill skunks that eat grubs from lawns that were sprayed with it. It's murder on pets and birds,too. It sure as he** isn't too good for humans,either. My BIL's best buddy was killed by using Paraquat and Malar on his apple orchard over the course of a year. People don't realize just how nasty some of that stuff is.
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July 25th, 2021, 06:41 PM
#63
Nah won't hurt you unless you swim in it. When I did Lawn and Tree care. I use to come home covered head to toe in Orthene, Sevin and diazinon. Occasionally when spraying lawns with 24D (Killex) once in a while a hose would blow and cover me. I love Roundup I but the commercial grade awesome for keeping weeds down around the yard. I don't pull weeds in the gardens I roundup. 
Worked with so many chemicals I can't remember all the names anymore. But those ones I worked the most with don't remember the others for indoors.

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
WOW!! The government won't allow homeowners to use original formula Killex that even works on crab and quack grass,but,they allow the use of that stuff that's deadly to every living creature that eats insects that are sprayed with it. In the right concentration,that stuff can kill skunks that eat grubs from lawns that were sprayed with it. It's murder on pets and birds,too. It sure as he** isn't too good for humans,either. My BIL's best buddy was killed by using Paraquat and Malar on his apple orchard over the course of a year. People don't realize just how nasty some of that stuff is.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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July 25th, 2021, 08:35 PM
#64

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
WOW!! The government won't allow homeowners to use original formula Killex that even works on crab and quack grass,but,they allow the use of that stuff that's deadly to every living creature that eats insects that are sprayed with it. In the right concentration,that stuff can kill skunks that eat grubs from lawns that were sprayed with it. It's murder on pets and birds,too. It sure as he** isn't too good for humans,either. My BIL's best buddy was killed by using Paraquat and Malar on his apple orchard over the course of a year. People don't realize just how nasty some of that stuff is.
Paraquat is one of the most toxic out there. Roughly 20x worse than Malathion where humans are concerned.
1 kg of pure paraquat is enough to render 100,000,000 litres of water unfit for human consumption.
There are a few other worse specimens but not many. Worst I can recall is Aldrin/Dieldrin roughly 15x more toxic than paraquat or 300x worse than Malathion.
Last edited by Species8472; July 25th, 2021 at 08:42 PM.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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July 25th, 2021, 08:45 PM
#65
Meh same as 24D

Originally Posted by
Species8472
Paraquat is one of the most toxic out there. Roughly 20x worse than Malathion where humans are concerned.
1 kg of pure paraquat is enough to render 100,000,000 litres of water unfit for human consumption.
There are a few other worse specimens but not many. Worst I can recall is Aldrin/Dieldrin roughly 15x more toxic than paraquat or 300x worse than Malathion.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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July 25th, 2021, 09:58 PM
#66

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Meh same as 24D
2,4-D is actually worse than Malathion but not as bad as Paraquat.
For reference I am talking chronic toxicity not acute and humans not the target species.
Last edited by Species8472; July 25th, 2021 at 10:02 PM.
The wilderness is not a stadium where I satisfy my ambition to achieve, it is the cathedral where I worship.
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July 25th, 2021, 10:09 PM
#67
Dursban is really bad its a chlorpyrifos and builds up in your fatty tissue I think it was banned all together in 2001. Sprayed that a lot as well. Sevin is much safer you pretty much pee it out. Malathion, Sevin, and diazinon you pretty much pee it out, leaves your body easily.
Not sure about weed pesticides but insecticides and rodenticides are probably the worse.

Originally Posted by
Species8472
2,4-D is actually worse than Malathion but not as bad as Paraquat.
For reference I am talking chronic toxicity not acute and humans not the target species.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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November 12th, 2021, 06:39 AM
#68
Any update on the tree status?
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November 12th, 2021, 09:39 AM
#69
I have a number of Douglas fir and Blue spruce on my property - all are dying from some needle cast disease - it is recommended that we don't plant those trees anymore -
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November 12th, 2021, 03:17 PM
#70
Has too much time on their hands
My mom had the same think happen .I pulled it out and the ground was covered in caterpillars. Millions of them.