How COVID-19 impacts the fully vaccinated

[smitty55]

Did I make a conspiracy theory comment?

My mistake, it was Hollywood in the other thread.

[WillieBeno]

I always thought 100% was a garantee. 97% sure sounds like they clearly said there's a 3 % chance of catching covid.
How I see when it comes to my own harm reduction outcome there is no one thing that will give 100% protection. Using as many layers as you can comes the closest.
Vax , don't vax your chioce and so you must also live withing societal protocols. Freedoms and rights do come with concequences for the choices you make. At the moment its vax, get tested, or remove yourself from public contact.
If you don't want to be preached at don't preach too others.

I think you have confused freedoms and rights with privilege otherwise they would have no grounds to be infringed upon or consequences when they are exercised.

[MikePal]

Yeah for sure and that is disappointing but not really surprising when variants come out after the vaccine was produced

First off you have to accept that the MSM is not being fully truthful about the impact of the Delta Variant. The case numbers they are using are flawed to downright false.

Second the Fully vaxxed are being infected by all varients ( there are 3 in Ont) of the Covid virus. The Delta is more transmittable, so more likely to catch it, but they are still getting the original variants. So the vaccine is NOT stopping any of the variants since the efficacy has dropped below 40%.

The Alpha (B.1.1.7)
Beta (B.1.351, B.1.351.2, B.1.351.3)
Delta (B.1.617.2, AY.1, AY.2, AY.3)

[finsfurfeathers]

But what they weren't expecting to find out it really the efficacy of it was only 37% after 4 months. That's because they never ran trials to find that out before they suck it in the arms of naive trusting people.

I like how the conversation has now turned to the 'haves' making excuses for a vaccine they put all their faith in. HaHa..

I don't know 4 months of harm reduction better than none. As with most things some want to be on the cutting edge of innovention others others may feel better to play follow the leader and reap the rewards of those that put themseleves forward. Ya its a bit of russian roulette with either choice but choose the path that works for you and the protocols that come with it.

[MikePal]

As with most things some want to be on the cutting edge of innovention others others may feel better to play follow the leader and reap the rewards of those that put themseleves forward.

Seriously ?? The Government and MSM institute a fear-mongering campaign for months with inflated numbers, get the public so worked up they will stand in line for hours to get whatever they are were told to take. From the Village Idiot: "take whatever vaccine your offered" ... now a great many have ended up with mixed vaccines and can't even enjoy travel to some countries HaHa.

Reep the rewards...I think you got it backwards.

[finsfurfeathers]

Seriously ?? The Government and MSM institute a fear-mongering campaign for months with inflated numbers, get the public so worked up they will stand in line for hours to get whatever they are were told to take. From the Village Idiot: "take whatever vaccine your offered" ... now a great many have ended up with mixed vaccines and can't even enjoy travel to some countries HaHa.

Reep the rewards...I think you got it backwards.

Lets see. Those that put themselves forward for harm reduction came to learn there can be adverse travel restriction(if one can really count that as an adverse vaccine complication) thoose that lagged learned if travel was important to them too check destination requirements.
Think I got it right

[MikePal]

Think I got it right

No...the institution of a mandatory vaccinations in order to 'travel /work' came after the population had reached the government's initial goal of 80% vaccination ..ie : herd immunity (by the movement's own definition). And why hospitals were no longer under threat of being overwhelmed...curve flattened, mission accomplished.

Think about it, why is the government coercing (forcing in case of work) people, who opted out of vaccination, with threats of been ostracized with the goal of now getting 100% of the population vaccinated when there is no longer a Health Emergency ?? .

"Those that put themselves forward for harm reduction" should be rewarded..that's like saying the sheep that run onto the trailer on market day should get to go first at the other end !! HaHa..

[trimmer21]

On a side note,our doctor's office advised that my last blood work was OK and that Flu shots will be avaiable the first week of October. Honestly,with the number of needles I've had stuck in me this last year,if I had as many sticking out me as I've had stickin' in me,I'd look like a pin cushion.

[finsfurfeathers]

Think about it, why is the government coercing (forcing in case of work) people, who opted out of vaccination, with threats of been ostracized with the goal of now getting 100% of the population vaccinated when there is no longer a Health Emergency ?? .

What position would you have us in?
Proactive to minimize risk of a health emergency or reactive beacuse of a health emergency?

[canadaman30]

I always thought 100% was a garantee. 97% sure sounds like they clearly said there's a 3 % chance of catching covid.
How I see when it comes to my own harm reduction outcome there is no one thing that will give 100% protection. Using as many layers as you can comes the closest.
Vax , don't vax your chioce and so you must also live withing societal protocols. Freedoms and rights do come with concequences for the choices you make. At the moment its vax, get tested, or remove yourself from public contact.
If you don't want to be preached at don't preach too others.

Pretty cowardly attitude towards people who will defend basic human rights.
Our front line heros who served the people with no protection over a year are now society enemies?
The only outcasts will be those trying to split society. Trudeau is a prime example

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