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    As well, I would only be guessing as to how many though, some home invasions that are targeted are a hit on the wrong home, maybe next door to a dealer or house numbers get inverted. Dealers and rip-off artists are not known as the cream of the intellectual crop when it comes to thinking out a clean hit.
    Crap, it isn't unknown for the police here in Canada to do a early morning high risk forced entry on the wrong home.
    You do not have to be a skell to get hit and the meth heads who need our help and understanding and subsidized housing and free meals and jobs(oops, maybe not that 1) don't care either.
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    I guess I could see the mistaken address/identity being plausible.

    I have an acquaintance who walked into the wrong house (looked identical door unlocked) while intoxicated and when he walked into "his" room was clobbered with a pipe and arrested/charged. So these people ARE out there

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveBates View Post
    If someone "breaks" into my house.......to me....my family's life are automatically at risk.....full stop......
    Agreed. But our government would prefer we sit and play patty-cake with the burglar for 20 minutes until the cops arrive.

    Legally we do have the right to self-defence, just make sure your story checks out.

    If it was a drunk, senile old lady entering the wrong house and she's found with 8 shells of 00 buck in her back as she was 20 yards off your property in an attempt to leave while and unarmed, you're going to have a big problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwhacker View Post
    If it was a drunk, senile old lady entering the wrong house and she's found with 8 shells of 00 buck in her back as she was 20 yards off your property in an attempt to leave while and unarmed, you're going to have a big problem.
    It is find in Florida, and disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73hunter View Post
    True enough of course, trigger-locked by the bedside would be legal if you felt the need.

    Question though, for our current & retired LEO members…you’ve shot an intruder and claim that you feared for your life. The cops find no evidence that the intruder had a gun. I thought that self defence was only justified when returning the same peril/force that was used upon you. ie shoot someone who turns out to be unarmed and be charged ?
    When a crook threatens bodily harm or death,either by brandishing a weapon or without,it's certainly not up to the victim to ascertain how that would be accomplished. There's no way a victim would know if there's a concealed weapon,special skills or may use anything within arms reach. "Mofo,I'm gonna f^^^ you up" seals his fate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    When a crook threatens bodily harm or death,either by brandishing a weapon or without,it's certainly not up to the victim to ascertain how that would be accomplished. There's no way a victim would know if there's a concealed weapon,special skills or may use anything within arms reach. "Mofo,I'm gonna f^^^ you up" seals his fate.
    Yep, and your fate to enjoy a long, expensive journey through the criminal courts system!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick_iles View Post
    Yep, and your fate to enjoy a long, expensive journey through the criminal courts system!!!
    It's far better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. Plead guilty to nothing and defend everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    It's far better to be judged by twelve than carried by six. Plead guilty to nothing and defend everything.
    I thought it was…. Act surprised, Look concerned, and lie your arse off !!
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    From reading the posts it seems some people almost wish this would happen or at least spend a lot of time fantasizing about it. The only thing missing is someone advising the nonsense of taking a kitchen knife and placing it in the dead perp's hand.

    If you are serious about the subject you will improve your home security, consult a lawyer on how to conduct yourself in the aftermath and never post anything on line that might be used in court by the Crown to demonstrate intent if the police seize your phone and computers as part of their investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    When a crook threatens bodily harm or death,either by brandishing a weapon or without,it's certainly not up to the victim to ascertain how that would be accomplished. There's no way a victim would know if there's a concealed weapon,special skills or may use anything within arms reach. "Mofo,I'm gonna f^^^ you up" seals his fate.
    Yepp. Same with threats of assault even without a weapon. If someone is advancing towards you menacingly and enters your personal space or touches you, it's already a fight at that point. You can go pre-emptive and not wait to receive numerous blows before you defend yourself.
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