Have certain breeds of hunting dogs fallen out of favour over the years?

[werner.reiche]

What breeds would be considered "versatile euro" dogs? I've never heard that expression (but then again I am not a hunter)

Here's a link for you.
A dog that can be used for upland, waterfowl and big game tracking.
Spaniels do upland and waterfowl well.
Hounds do big game well.
The versatiles do all three.

https://www.navhda.org/recognized-breeds/

[hikingquest]

Here's a link for you.
A dog that can be used for upland, waterfowl and big game tracking.
Spaniels do upland and waterfowl well.
Hounds do big game well.
The versatiles do all three.

https://www.navhda.org/recognized-breeds/

Awesome thanks - I believe I am about to go down a dog breed rabbit hole.....

[hikingquest]

Here's a link for you.
A dog that can be used for upland, waterfowl and big game tracking.
Spaniels do upland and waterfowl well.
Hounds do big game well.
The versatiles do all three.

https://www.navhda.org/recognized-breeds/

Wow out of the 32 breeds listed I was only familiar with 10. I was going to ask earlier in the thread if Brittany's were considered versatile because in my limited knowledge of guns dogs I had heard that to be the case - and they are on the list. That pleases me for some reason....

[werner.reiche]

Wow out of the 32 breeds listed I was only familiar with 10. I was going to ask earlier in the thread if Brittany's were considered versatile because in my limited knowledge of guns dogs I had heard that to be the case - and they are on the list. That pleases me for some reason....

That's why the reference to them as "euro versatile" - most of those breeds are European.

[finsfurfeathers]

Wow out of the 32 breeds listed I was only familiar with 10. I was going to ask earlier in the thread if Brittany's were considered versatile because in my limited knowledge of guns dogs I had heard that to be the case - and they are on the list. That pleases me for some reason....

Yes a Brit can be considered versatile however do remember the old saying jack of all trades, master at none. So to say if pointing game is your primary objective it'll take a higher level of training to do other tasks. Along with that environmental conditions may also play in the physiology limitations.
As far as Brit/setter cross must admit I was looking at a settiny just because I have a fondness for a smaller dog. Some lines of brit have grown to big to feed the market for a bigger dog.

[hikingquest]

. Some lines of brit have grown to big to feed the market for a bigger dog.

Is this a North American phenomenon? - the same happened with German Shepherds and Dobermans; when I first saw a true working-line Doberman I was surprised how small it was. But apparently some people just thought bigger meant "tougher' or "meaner" but in turned out it also could mean goofier and and lazier....

[finsfurfeathers]

Is this a North American phenomenon? - the same happened with German Shepherds and Dobermans; when I first saw a true working-line Doberman I was surprised how small it was. But apparently some people just thought bigger meant "tougher' or "meaner" but in turned out it also could mean goofier and and lazier....

Yup a north american thing. Back late '60s dad brought up a female brit from the states. Back than their claim to fame was the smallest pointing breed. She was little bigger than a cat. Ended up a few points shy of being a dual champ before dad got fed up with the trial politics. Nowadays most lines near lab size.

[hikingquest]

Yup a north american thing. Back late '60s dad brought up a female brit from the states. Back than their claim to fame was the smallest pointing breed. She was little bigger than a cat. Ended up a few points shy of being a dual champ before dad got fed up with the trial politics. Nowadays most lines near lab size.

I'm finding a lab-sized Brittany hard to fathom... especially since I've seen some pretty big labs...

[Gerald]

Pudelpointer, Drahthaar, Deutsch kurzhaar and probably the GWP, the Griffon etc I'm missing some I'm sure.

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Is the Drahthaar not the same as the GWP?

[trkyhntr21]

I would say not. The VDD has maintained a pretty strict standard and testing for a type and the other is open to more interpretation since the 1950s

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