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October 8th, 2021, 02:46 PM
#131
You still haven't grasped where we're at with the whole Covid thing;
The key to what will roll out next IS the drop in efficacy resulting in "infections' in the double vaxxed. Right now they are getting access to the general public under the guise that because they are vaccinated the can't get the Virus.
Well that is quickly becoming untrue with 30% of the serious cases ending up in Hospitals are fully vaccinated.
So the whole Vaccine Passort efforts will soon be tossed aside as it really will have bearing on public safety. With 30% ..1/3 ...of the passengers on an airplane potentially carrying the vaccine..you're no safer there than at Walmart.
Again with the personal attacks...??
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October 8th, 2021 02:46 PM
# ADS
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October 8th, 2021, 03:20 PM
#132

Originally Posted by
MikePal
You still haven't grasped where we're at with the whole Covid thing;
The key to what will roll out next IS the drop in efficacy resulting in "infections' in the double vaxxed. Right now they are getting access to the general public under the guise that because they are vaccinated the can't get the Virus.
Well that is quickly becoming untrue with 30% of the serious cases ending up in Hospitals are fully vaccinated.
So the whole Vaccine Passort efforts will soon be tossed aside as it really will have bearing on public safety. With 30% ..1/3 ...of the passengers on an airplane potentially carrying the vaccine..you're no safer there than at Walmart.
Again with the personal attacks...??
Mike, you know why I am reacting the way I am ... because you are coming off as if you are some kind of headmaster, on your high horse, a know-at-all (so to speak) ... very arrogant.
It's not an insult, it's just how you are received by your comments ... and I'm sorry, it just isn't being digested very well by me. There are many very intelligent people in on this conversation.
You guys really ticked me off when you started calling me a fear mongerer, and playing games with words to try and oust me ... even repeatedly insinuating I know nothing about this thread,
then childishly stating "you said it, not me", which is meant to provoke a reaction. It's all child's play. Enough said on that. I won't repeat it, my points been made.
Now as for COVID, you guys should try and get a grip (I mean, do whatever the heck you want, at this stage I couldn't care less) ... but for your own sake, you are arguing really stupid things.
And again, I am not saying you're stupid, it's some of your arguments ... not all. Let me start with the positive ... and I've said it already, I DO NOT THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE FORCED TO TAKE THE VACCINE.
So, stop for a second, and let that absorb ... I'm positive we are on the same page here.
Here's where I think you go down the wrong path, and you will not get me to back off on this, because I am confident you are wrong.
The vaccine DOES reduce hospitalizations, according to the data on the government site, and even the paper you sourced for us all.
So, when you guys repeatedly try and extract data that show efficacy for infection is dropping ... for me, that is being selective in what you are looking at to suit you're
argument ... disregarding the more interesting data that shows efficacy actually improved over 6 months for hospitalizations.
I will repeat again, I DO NOT BELIEVE WE SHOULD CARE ANYMORE ABOUT COVID CASES ... MEANS NOTHING, only ICU/hospitalizations mean something now
that almost everyone is vaccinated. Either the vaccine is working to stop/limit hospitalizations, or it isn't.
And here is another opinion ... if unvaccinated are now worried about asymptotic vaccinated carrying around the virus ... I can sure as hell tell you, that thinking absolutely supports
the need to have a COVID Vaccine Passport, and limit access to unvaccinated ... because I'm not going through another shut down for unvaccinated people, that's for sure.
If unvaccinated people are worried about getting the virus from vaccinated people, then stay home. That is what we are all trying to tell you guys, you're choice, but you're
consequence too!
Last edited by MarkB; October 8th, 2021 at 03:24 PM.
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October 8th, 2021, 06:39 PM
#133
I'll summarize your entire post.....bull pucky.
Your previous two posts confirmed you know little about what's going on in ref to Infection rate vs Hospitalizations, facts were provided to show you were wrong yet to continue going down the path. Which is fine, there is an old saying" Can’t Tell A Heinz Pickle Nothin’"...seems appropriate.
Since you continue to make personal attacks I'm not wasting any more time on you. I enjoy the banter but you don't deserve any more of my time.
Last edited by MikePal; October 9th, 2021 at 03:13 AM.
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October 9th, 2021, 07:03 AM
#134
People have had tweets with this kind of content labeled misleading, and many have been suspended from Twitter as a result.
Guess it’s now “officially” ok to say Delta isn’t different for kids & that natural immunity > than vaccine-induced.
https://www.reuters.com/business/hea...source=twitter
The best part about being a "conspiracy theorist" is not having myocarditis.
Roses are red, violets are blue, taxation is theft, inflation is too.
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October 9th, 2021, 09:26 AM
#135
Has too much time on their hands
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October 11th, 2021, 01:47 PM
#136

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
It might work with COVID however what the anti-vaxxers don't grasp is that even if it does work getting to "natural immunity" risks hundreds of thousands of Canadian lives and millions globally. The risk presented by the vaccine meanwhile is infinitesimal in comparison to being infected. Nevertheless vaccine refuseniks would prefer people not take the vaccines, become infected with COVID and shot up with horse drugs or whatever crazy concoction is the latest rage on Facebook.
This shows how much you are plugged in to your tv.
Ivermectin can be used both, by your MD or a vet. It is not a horse drug but a anti-parasitic drug.
Ivermectin is being used quite successfully off-label to treat people with covid. In fact, it is so successful that it is being deliberately ignored and banned, because it is cheap and effective. Have you heard about covid kits in India and El Salvador?
The reason media began to label it as a horse drug used by some crazzy person to treat covid is because some poor shmuck couldnt get human-intended pills and got a veterinary use ivermectin. Well, the dosages are quite different.
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Last edited by NJohnson; October 11th, 2021 at 02:29 PM.
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October 11th, 2021, 03:05 PM
#137

Originally Posted by
NJohnson
This shows how much you are plugged in to your tv.
Ivermectin can be used both, by your MD or a vet. It is not a horse drug but a anti-parasitic drug.
Ivermectin is being used quite successfully off-label to treat people with covid. In fact, it is so successful that it is being deliberately ignored and banned, because it is cheap and effective. Have you heard about covid kits in India and El Salvador?
The reason media began to label it as a horse drug used by some crazzy person to treat covid is because some poor shmuck couldnt get human-intended pills and got a veterinary use ivermectin. Well, the dosages are quite different.
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Yes just another classic example of misinformation from our media.
Is was given a noble prize for its use in humans lol.
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October 11th, 2021, 06:45 PM
#138

Originally Posted by
NJohnson
This shows how much you are plugged in to your tv.
Ivermectin can be used both, by your MD or a vet. It is not a horse drug but a anti-parasitic drug.
Ivermectin is being used quite successfully off-label to treat people with covid. In fact, it is so successful that it is being deliberately ignored and banned, because it is cheap and effective. Have you heard about covid kits in India and El Salvador?
The reason media began to label it as a horse drug used by some crazzy person to treat covid is because some poor shmuck couldnt get human-intended pills and got a veterinary use ivermectin. Well, the dosages are quite different.
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Congrats, I see it didn't take you long to figure him out. The truth doesn't mean a thing to him, it's all trolling, propaganda and outright lies. On top of that he's not even very good at it lol.
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October 12th, 2021, 03:57 AM
#139
Another typical and common drug with uses across a broad spectrum is warfarin. Originally used as a rat poison it is also used on humans as a common drug used daily to help with blood thinning.
John
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October 12th, 2021, 04:21 AM
#140

Originally Posted by
johnjyb
Another typical and common drug with uses across a broad spectrum is warfarin. Originally used as a rat poison it is also used on humans as a common drug used daily to help with blood thinning.
John
First time I heard that was at the Hunt camp and the old guys were sitting around talking about the drugs they were on and they kept saying 'Rat Poison'. Waited till I got home to ask the wife (an RN) what were they talking about...sure enough !! HaHa...