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October 30th, 2021, 09:48 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
gbk
Unfortunatelly ,the rule WAS always-You can have the charge and the bullet in the gun ONLY while traveling from one hunting site ,to another one.
Basically-during legal hunting hrs.
Just remove the primer.Probably to "allow"some slack for hunters,not to unload every time they move with vehicles during the day.
Before-and after legal shooting hrs,the LAW treats muzzleloaders UNLOADED only when : -The primer is removed-and there is no charge and bullet in the barrel.
On this forum there are many former LEOs and MNR employees-they can confirm.
But-unfortunately, that is the law.
No logic there either...........but that is another story.
Don’t think your right
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October 30th, 2021 09:48 AM
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October 30th, 2021, 09:51 AM
#12
A muzzle-loading gun is a gun that is loaded through the muzzle. A percussion muzzle-loading gun is considered to be loaded if there is a charge of powder and a projectile in the barrel and a percussion cap on the nipple. A flint-lock muzzle-loading gun is considered to be loaded if there is a charge of powder and a projectile in the barrel and the vent is unplugged. An electronic ignition muzzle-loading gun is considered to be loaded if there is a projectile in the barrel and a battery connected to the primer or charge. Under federal regulations pertaining to storage and transport of firearms, a muzzle-loading gun is not unloaded unless any propellant, projectile or cartridge has been removed from the breech or firing chamber.
There is an exemption on transport restrictions when traveling between hunting sites.
Straight from the Regulations on the WEB.Fish and Wildlife act 1997.
https://www.ontario.ca/document/onta...unting%20sites.
UNLESS i interpret this on a wrong way...........I actually HOPE i am wrong
Not arguing with anyone though.............
Last edited by gbk; October 30th, 2021 at 09:59 AM.
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October 30th, 2021, 10:40 AM
#13
It's a rule that hasn't been tested in court, which will see the foolishness of allowing a ML in a moving truck with only the primer removed to make it safe....but will not accept an ML is 'safe' when you remove the primer to store it overnight during a legal hunt season.
The rules use to have an out...it said " an ML was loaded when it had a propellant, projectile or cartridge AND a primer" . Meaning removing the primer made it safe (unloaded) ...ergo why there is the exception to being able to remove the primary to make it safe for purposes of transportation.
A good lawyer will fix that someday when a test case goes to trial. In the meantime I'll use 'common sense' and do what I have always done.