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October 30th, 2021, 12:24 PM
#21
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-vaccines-ontario
Population of Ontario: 14,789,778 million as of April 1, 2021.
https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-...-first-quarter
Fully vaccinated: 11,007,022 (Oct. 30, 2021) 74.4%
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/covid-19-vaccines-ontario
The lower percentage includes children who are not eligible for immunization.
But no matter how you count the numbers the hospitalization numbers of the unvaccinated are disportionately much higher when compared to the vaccinated.
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October 30th, 2021 12:24 PM
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October 30th, 2021, 01:25 PM
#22
Has too much time on their hands
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October 30th, 2021, 01:39 PM
#23

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
But no matter how you count the numbers the hospitalization numbers of the unvaccinated are disportionately much higher when compared to the vaccinated.
I don't know why you think that's worth pointing out..With 4 people in the hospital; 1/3 are now fully vaccinated, the other 2/3 are unvaccinated. When they all recover their as immune to the virus as if they just had the vaccine and herd immunity is achieved.
You seem to be overly concerned that the unvaccinated are getting sick...but not that the fully vaccinated are in every 3rd bed.
There are only 8 Covid patients in the Ottawa Hospital serving a population of 1.2 million. The number has been like this for months now, who cares if 2/3 of them were unvaccinated. ..when they recover they will be fully "vaccinated" too. 
remember: There is no reason to be concerned about the unvaccinated if you fully vaccinated and the only person an unvaccinated person has to worry about is another unvaccinated person.
Last edited by MikePal; October 30th, 2021 at 02:49 PM.
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October 30th, 2021, 03:31 PM
#24

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
The point remains that those who are vaccinated are less likely to become seriously ill and die. In Ontario 22 percent of the population is unvaccinated but they represent 74% of COVID patients in ICU and 71% of non-ICU hospitalizations due to COVID.
https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations
Here's the kicker do we blame all the unvaccinated ?
Or the fact that only 86 % of the people between the age of 50 and 59 are fully vaccinated. This age group sits in the middle of the average age that needs an ICU.
Or how about we move to groups that have the highest death they both have 8 to 9 per cent unvaccinated.
Between the ages of 60 and 69 is 11 percent that are not vaccinated.
Plenty of hight risk people unvaccinated
What is the risk of people under 40 needing medical attention.? Seems like this age age group is seeing a higher number of severe side effects from the vaccine. More than the government expected. But they also make up the least amount hospitalized or dead from the most amount of cases. . When hundreds of thousands cases results in little severe outcomes . When school kids who are at a rare risk of needing medical attention ,they are labeled as the unvaccinated and the push to blame it all on the unvaccinated that are filling up the icu.
So in the end what is a case what does that mean ? Probably under [emoji817] thousand cases from people 80 and up, many hospitalized thousands have died almost 20 thousand.
Then we have a large portion of the cases that have hundreds of thousands with a handful of inflated deaths.
Being unvaccinated means very little when they are blaming the unvaccinated and the average age is 61 in the hospital. But the majority of the unvaccinated are children and the ages between 30 to 49.
They have manipulated all the numbers so why wouldn't they manipulate this one to . Just keep pushing the same narrative. We need to focus on the problems and the problems are not everyone the problem with this virus is age unfortunately.
Pushing new technology that was never designed to be used as a vaccine could come at a cost..
To hide the bad side effects from the shot something smells fishy. What's the rush we know nothing about these shots what's good for some isn't good for others the risk is not not even the same.
Sorry for the rant lol.
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October 30th, 2021, 07:33 PM
#25

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
What some anti-vaxxers are promoting however is actually getting infected with the virus INSTEAD of taking the vaccine which is idiotic. And you can be certain that should the authorities agree "natural immunity" is acceptable as proof of immunization anti-vaxx morons would be holding COVID parties to pass the virus around among themselves.
Not sure of your vintage, but I call recall mothers arranging play dates for their uninfected kids with other kids that had active chicken pox. Since getting chicken pox as a kid was almost a certainty, parents wanted to control when it happened.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedy." Ernest Benn
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October 30th, 2021, 07:42 PM
#26
Chicken Pox was never really considered deadly like Polio, Measles or mumps or Covid.

Originally Posted by
delmer
Not sure of your vintage, but I call recall mothers arranging play dates for their uninfected kids with other kids that had active chicken pox. Since getting chicken pox as a kid was almost a certainty, parents wanted to control when it happened.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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October 30th, 2021, 08:17 PM
#27
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
Cameracutter
Is there a help line for those that still believe Trump won the election?
There should be for people that think Biden got the most votes ever
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October 31st, 2021, 02:10 AM
#28

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Chicken Pox was never really considered deadly like Polio, Measles or mumps or Covid.
They use to have parties for both Measles and Mumps back in the early 60/70s.
In the United States, chickenpox parties (Pox Parties) were popularized before the introduction of the varicella vaccine in 1995. Children were also sometimes intentionally exposed to other common childhood illnesses, such as mumps and measles.[23] Before vaccines for these infections became available, parents regarded these diseases as almost inevitable.
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October 31st, 2021, 09:02 AM
#29

Originally Posted by
delmer
Not sure of your vintage, but I call recall mothers arranging play dates for their uninfected kids with other kids that had active chicken pox. Since getting chicken pox as a kid was almost a certainty, parents wanted to control when it happened.
These infect-a-friend play dates took place in the era before there was a vaccine for chickenpox. Same with measles and mumps.
Giving "natural immunity" the same status as vaccinations would only prompt anti-vaxxers to swap spit among themselves hoping to become infected. As they are typically the same imbeciles who object to wearing masks, capacity limits, social distancing and quarantines they present an even greater threat to spread the virus to innocent people.
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October 31st, 2021, 10:09 AM
#30

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
they present an even greater threat to spread the virus to innocent people.
I thought all the 'innocent' people are now 'Verified' ...an unvaccinated person is no threat to them...you're talking rubbish.
Last edited by MikePal; October 31st, 2021 at 10:25 AM.