Vaccine seems to be working in Ontario

[Bushwhacker]

Yeah, they work ... ask Italy what happens when COVID gets out of control in an unvaccinated population.
The death rates make those illness look like the tip of an iceberg.

Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world. The same demo that is most at risk and who makes up the majority of covid deaths worldwide.

[canadaman30]

Mrna does not change your DNA. Not sure where or why you keep making that up.

If you want to play with DNA, buy the crispr tool.

Who ever made such claims besides yourself? You continue to grasp at straws with false claims. Reminds me of the other false accusations you make about member ok with punching kids in the face. Very weak counters on your part..lol
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[MarkB]

Apparently not here in BC

https://brightlightnews.com/49-of-b-...ly-vaccinated/

Yeah, apparently if you're +80 years old, the vaccine doesn't work in BC ... lol ... 70 of those 89 vaccinated deaths were people OVER THE AGE OF 80!
Skew the data why don't you.

STOP SPREADING THE FEAR!

[MikePal]

70 of those 89 vaccinated deaths were people OVER THE AGE OF 80!

The over 80 group account for 63% of all Covid deaths...vaccinated or not. ...if you drop that to 50+ age group they account for 92% of ALL covid deaths... since the beginning. Being vaccinated hasn't really changed that ratio...

see table 7a..page 12...at:

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...tion.pdf?la=en

[MarkB]

Italy has one of the oldest populations in the world. The same demo that is most at risk and who makes up the majority of covid deaths worldwide.

True, but the doctor on scene that I was in direct comms with said lots of 30 and 40 year olds, they had to pick and choose who was going to live or die.
He told me in that case, they did not treat the elderly ... they prioritized younger people who had a better chance of survival.

The data is actually hard to filter out and see a simple "what is the answer" because the circumstances have an impact on the answers. For example, what
would have happened if NO Italians were treated ... what proportion of the deaths would have been younger people? Because younger people got the treatment bias,
it's impossible to know.

But for sure I can tell you ... those people in Italy, whether young or old ... were badly effected. The doctors were in panic, depressed, crying ... imagine having to choose
for someone to die ... imagine that decision is on you ... and you have to tell the family why you made that decision. They will scream at you, plead, cry, fight ... ALL the hate
is directed at you, because you made the decision to take their loved one away. This is not fear mongering at all (in case someone here calls me out on that) ... the doctor I
spoke to literally hated his life while that was happening!

[MarkB]

The over 80 group account for 63% of all Covid deaths...vaccinated or not. ...if you drop that to 50+ age group they account for 92% of ALL covid deaths... since the beginning. Being vaccinated hasn't really changed that ratio...

Mike, stop moving the goal posts. HE posted data from an area in BC ... let's stick to that ...
70 out of the 89 people in that report were people over 80 years old. PERIOD.

He's fear mongering by not presenting ALL THE TRUTH.

You change data just to suit your argument ... stick to the specific subject/data (as you've told others to do).

[fishfood]

Mike, stop moving the goal posts. HE posted data from an area in BC ... let's stick to that ...
70 out of the 89 people in that report were people over 80 years old. PERIOD.

He's fear mongering by not presenting ALL THE TRUTH.

You change data just to suit your argument ... stick to the specific subject/data (as you've told others to do).

I think Mike might be to on something before the vaccine who made up the majority of the deaths?
Almost 50 percent came from long care

People over 80 made up a small amount of the cases reported and make up the largest deaths.

When new Brunswick See's double the amount of case double the amount of deaths after the highly successful vaccine campaign. That means its working right ?

He didn't change any goal post it's what's been happening.

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[MikePal]

I just posted this link in previous post ..show that the ratios haven't changed

see table 7a Hospitalzations page 12 ..table 7b deaths....page 13.

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-...tion.pdf?la=en

[smitty55]

Mrna does not change your DNA. Not sure where or why you keep making that up.

If you want to play with DNA, buy the crispr tool.

So what you're saying is that mRNA and RNA have nothing to do with genetics? Is that right?
So I guess you think the covid vaccine is the same as all previous ones too? That's the point I was making, but it went right over your head as usual.

[MarkB]

I think Mike might be to on something before the vaccine who made up the majority of the deaths?
Almost 50 percent came from long care

People over 80 made up a small amount of the cases reported and make up the largest deaths.

When new Brunswick See's double the amount of case double the amount of deaths after the highly successful vaccine campaign. That means its working right ?

He didn't change any goal post it's what's been happening.

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I'm refering to the fact that the ARTICLE posted by CanadaMan says that most of the vaccinated deaths are people over 80 years old.
CanadaMan left that important detail out ... and so did the chart he posted ... it made out like the vaccine was generally failing, then you
go into the ariticle and it says the vaccinated that died were almost all over 80 years old!

I just don't like how people skew data, take things out of context ... just to suit a view.
The fact is, there is a much higher % of unvaccinated in hospital than vaccinated ... and that includes +40 year olds.
For sure, there is an older age bias ... you guys don't have to convince me of that.