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November 25th, 2021, 07:57 AM
#291
There are many things children don't want to do including eating their vegetables, not playing in the street, coming straight home from school. When parents require them to do all of the aforementioned it's not considered abuse. When boards of education require children to be vaccinated to attend school it's not considered abuse either.
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November 25th, 2021 07:57 AM
# ADS
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November 25th, 2021, 08:18 AM
#292

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
There are many things children don't want to do including eating their vegetables, not playing in the street, coming straight home from school. When parents require them to do all of the aforementioned it's not considered abuse. When boards of education require children to be vaccinated to attend school it's not considered abuse either.
It is considered an assault on the body.
School is less than 8 hours a day. That experimental jab remains 24/7.
The Nuremberg Code
The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.
This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved, as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that, before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject, there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person, which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment.
The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.
The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study, that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
No experiment should be conducted, where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
During the course of the experiment, the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end, if he has reached the physical or mental state, where continuation of the experiment seemed to him to be impossible.
During the course of the experiment, the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgement required of him, that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
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November 25th, 2021, 12:10 PM
#293

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Stop twisting the words Mike, to avoid giving an answer you don't like. You're starting to act like Turdeau and his Liberals!
If a child WANTS the vaccine and the parent does not allow the child to ... is that still child abuse? Yes or No?
Oh and get lost with your superiority complex ... homework, lol. Topic I know nothing about ... lol ... you assume a lot, a lot of BS that is!
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November 25th, 2021, 12:13 PM
#294

Originally Posted by
Badenoch
There are many things children don't want to do including eating their vegetables, not playing in the street, coming straight home from school. When parents require them to do all of the aforementioned it's not considered abuse. When boards of education require children to be vaccinated to attend school it's not considered abuse either.
Mike thinks it's child abuse and you have to call child protective services ... and that somehow they will support something that is against a provincial mandate. Man he knows how to dig holes for himself ... it's hilarious ... the things he say, and how they backfire on him.
You see, with Mike, you just use rules in discretion ... whenever it suits his arguments, but then you don't when it doesn't. Fairly big hypocrite if you ask me.
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November 25th, 2021, 12:22 PM
#295
Has too much time on their hands
I'll leave this for the fact checkers, can't confirm or deny
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index...x-or-kill-shot
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November 25th, 2021, 01:18 PM
#296

Originally Posted by
MarkB
Oh and get lost with your superiority complex ... homework, lol. Topic I know nothing about ... lol ... you assume a lot, a lot of BS that is!
Do your homework and you'll find the answer I already gave you...
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November 25th, 2021, 01:20 PM
#297

Originally Posted by
MarkB
.. and that somehow they will support something that is against a provincial mandate.
There is no Provincial or Federal mandate to be vaccinated....this far in and you still don't know the basics ..Shameful..
Last edited by MikePal; November 25th, 2021 at 02:10 PM.
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November 25th, 2021, 02:15 PM
#298
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November 25th, 2021, 02:16 PM
#299

Originally Posted by
impact
It is considered an assault on the body.
My wife studied that scenario when she was taking her Ethics course in Nursing ( BScN.) . Even a child has the right to make decisions as they pertain to their own body. Many case histories involving religious secs etc. A child can (and do) receive Legal help if it's determined that they know what they are asking for or refusing to receive and the parents are denying their wishes.
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November 25th, 2021, 02:56 PM
#300

Originally Posted by
MikePal
There is no Provincial or Federal mandate to be vaccinated....this far in and you still don't know the basics ..Shameful..
Shameful ... oh my ... gasp! Mike you sure are a dramatic person!
OK maybe I should have said "policy" or "strategy" ... oh, my goodness! He said mandate instead of strategy!! Look at that shameful act!
LOL.
You're sounding more and more like a Liberal snowflake everyday.
I'll leave this hear ... this entire conversation has been based on "forcing" a child to take the vaccine, based on what Bushwhacker wrote:

Originally Posted by
Bushwhacker
If you don't want your young, healthy, statistically near zero covid risk children to be vaxed against your will, please take them out of school ASAP.
There is no minimum age of consent in Ontario. The vaccinator can claim they were a "mature minor" and gave informed consent
Reference:
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/96h02?s=09
Last edited by MarkB; November 25th, 2021 at 03:00 PM.