The Pandemic: How society has been brain washed.

[fishfood]

The real victims of brainwashing are those who've been convinced by anti-vaxxers on social media to not take a vaccine that would reduce their risk of being infected, hospitalized and admitted to an ICU.

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/onta...cinationstatus

Seems like gm gave some exemptions after the first dose how come ? Maybe the second one would kill them?

It's called human rights and I have the right to deny any experimental vaccine.

It should be illegal for any company to push this experimental drug at this time. We have no idea what the long term effects will be but we have a clue of the instant side effects leaving hundreds a week to seek medical attention.

How's the hospital's working out now seems like it's a pandemic of the vaccinated. Fully vaccinated need to take daily test again short staffed because they would rather work harder than work with an unvaccinated person.

You keep pushing that example of but how many people are over 55 year's hat are unvaccinated in the hospital? Because we know over 20 percent of the population has little risk of being hospitalized unvaccinated.

Hospitals will be filling up shorty you can count on that. When the body can't react to a single bee sting we have a problem. Yes fact checkers are right the vaccine can't make a cold worse but when the body ignores it there is going to be a problem .

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[MikePal]

The real victims of brainwashing are those who've been convinced by anti-vaxxers on social media to not take a vaccine that would reduce their risk of being infected, hospitalized and admitted to an ICU.

Not sure where the 'Science Table' is getting their info...but straight from Ontario Health yesterday...

Another 1,536 new cases of COVID-19 were reported in Ontario on Monday as the positivity rate for the disease in the province reaches its highest level in months.

Of the new infections logged, 809 were found in fully vaccinated individuals, 601 were found in those who are unvaccinated, and 33 were found in partially vaccinated individuals. The vaccination status of the remaining 93 cases is unknown.

Not fancy math:

1536 infections.
809 fully vaxxed + 33 partial vaxxed = 842 or 55%
601 unvaxxed = 40% ...

I'll stick with that data....

[Badenoch]

Not sure where the 'Science Table' is getting their info...but straight from Ontario Health yesterday...



Not fancy math:

1536 infections.
809 fully vaxxed + 33 partial vaxxed = 842 or 55%
601 unvaxxed = 40% ...

I'll stick with that data....

The Science Table data is per capita. There are at least four times as many vaccinated as unvaccinated in Ontario. Unvaxxed are 25% of the population but 40% of the new infections and an even greater proportion of hospitalizations and ICU admissions.

[MikePal]

You keep harping on and on about Hospitalizations...they're a moot point now.

ie: In Ottawa with 802 active cases ...there are only 6 patients hospitalized and 0 in the ICU....who cares what their vaccination status is ..it's irrelevant.

edit add: City of Toronto..6.8 million people: As of December 14 at 8:30 a.m., there have been 186,016 cases (338 new), 34 people are in hospital... they're irrelevant on a % basis. !!


With the Ormicon variant about roll thru Ontario..everyone regardless of the vaccination status is open to infection. Pfizer admits that it's only 23% effective to stop it....so the 'Verified' status means Bupkis

[Badenoch]

You keep harping on and on about Hospitalizations...they're a moot point now.

ie: In Ottawa with 802 active cases ...there are only 6 patients hospitalized and 0 in the ICU....who cares what their vaccination status is ..it's irrelevant.

edit add: City of Toronto..6.8 million people: As of December 14 at 8:30 a.m., there have been 186,016 cases (338 new), 34 people are in hospital... they're irrelevant on a % basis. !!


With the Ormicon variant about roll thru Ontario..everyone regardless of the vaccination status is open to infection. Pfizer admits that it's only 23% effective to stop it....so the 'Verified' status means Bupkis

Hospitalization rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated should matter to the individual who wants to stay out of one. The best way to do that is to be vaccinated.

The 23% efficacy is for two shots. Early studies say a third will take that to 70 so you might want to book your booster appointment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/boos...ency-says.html

Regardless of the initial vaccine a patient received, a Pfizer-BioNtech booster provided 70% - 75% protection against symptomatic infection for people.

[MikePal]

Early studies say a third will take that to 70 so you might want to book your booster appointment.

Your chances of being hospitalized (even back before vaccinations) is slim.. ..and then it was mostly autoimmune comprimised people. It really is an irrelevant metric in the grander scheme.

Canada accumulated only 1.8 Million positive cases (5% of the population) and only 7% of them (93K) were hospitalized.


Booster...fat chance of that happening...and if you think they'll get anywhere near 50% of the public to get a booster of a failed vaccine..you're really brainwashed

[fishfood]

Your chances of being hospitalized (even back before vaccinations) is slim.. ..and then it was mostly autoimmune comprimised people. It really is an irrelevant metric in the grander scheme. (Canada accumulated only 1.8 Million positive cases...only 93K were hospitalized or 7%. )


Booster...fat chance of that happening...and if you think they'll get anywhere near 50% of the public to get a booster of a failed vaccine..you're really brainwashed

Don't forget you can take 21 percent of those cases and say they have only a slight chance low risk of needing medical attention. Considered even as rare . Then the next group of about 20 percent have a low risk of developing serious and it continues to expand as the age group go's up. It will be months before we get the last group of kids vaccinated up to par, then a fourth come spring.

Places are already mandating a 3rd shot it's now classified as a 3 dose vaccine for omicron.

The right thing to do would worry about the ones who are most at risk instead of wasting [emoji817] s of thousands vaccine's on kids who won't be fully protected until March lol. We know it was taking 2 months for a 2 dose be activated enough to be considered fully vaccinated. 2 weeks after the second shot with a delay in the middle. The longer they hold between shots the longer it will take to pump 3 shots in the younger people. Look at how much effort they are going to put in for them to say the kid was unvaccinated.

With the hospital's full of non covid patients they should be looking at what's putting them there. That will come out soon enough Dr tam just mentioned the other day we needed more hospital space something that should of been considered last year lol. Can't fix stupid.

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[fishfood]

Hospitalization rates between the vaccinated and unvaccinated should matter to the individual who wants to stay out of one. The best way to do that is to be vaccinated.

The 23% efficacy is for two shots. Early studies say a third will take that to 70 so you might want to book your booster appointment.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/10/boos...ency-says.html

Yes if your in the high risk groups yes you should think about getting protection. Having someone that is unvaccinated near you shouldn't cancel out your protection you are vaccinated you are protected .

Your vaccine should work if I don't take mine that's what it's for to protect you.

We have created a divide between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated that its accually sickening. Families torn because they think if your unvaccinated you are the problem. I think if your fully vaccinated people have a problem it's the vaccine not living up to its word. Or the government words safe and effective .

If they were effective you shouldn't care who is unvaccinated or vaccinated the vaccinated should be protected.

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[Badenoch]

Yes if your in the high risk groups yes you should think about getting protection. Having someone that is unvaccinated near you shouldn't cancel out your protection you are vaccinated you are protected .

Your vaccine should work if I don't take mine that's what it's for to protect you.

We have created a divide between the unvaccinated and the vaccinated that its accually sickening. Families torn because they think if your unvaccinated you are the problem. I think if your fully vaccinated people have a problem it's the vaccine not living up to its word. Or the government words safe and effective .

If they were effective you shouldn't care who is unvaccinated or vaccinated the vaccinated should be protected.

No vaccine is 100% and while I've been vaccinated against diphtheria and pertussis I'm not about to invite anyone infected with either over to the house. No vax, no visit.

[fishfood]

No vaccine is 100% and while I've been vaccinated against diphtheria and pertussis I'm not about to invite anyone infected with either over to the house. No vax, no visit.

Still apples to oranges . One is a shot every 10 years that has a 5 to 10% fatality rate. It's also been properly approved and tested for what decades?

This is an emergency use only experimental vaccine. With a virus that shows a 1 to 3 % with heavily inflated deaths.
The Adolescent population has a 99.995% survival rate and that is even inflated. Not a 90 percent chance


Even before everyone had vaccines as of April 22 2021 we only had 0.9% of the cases admitted to the ICU from the the past 13 moths. Also those were not all from covid many were already on the ICU when they become infected or just on it for other reasons.

But I guess that's enough to use the public as lab rats .


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