A Very Big Mistake

[canadaman30]

The main problem I see is that even if we could liberate some of these very bright entrepreneurs and encourage them to go to the west, their entire families would also have to get out intact, but would be held hostage or worse.

To be expected from a country that bans guns. Trudeaus a fanboy of that very concept.

[Gilroy]

Watching the video Justin appears to admire that the Chinese can get things done, there is no denying that. He is not saying he likes dictatorships and nowhere in the video did he say he admired China the most?
He cannot be a fan of banning guns as most of us have all the guns we had 40 years ago. He has banned certain guns would be more accurate.

[mosquito]

To be expected from a country that bans guns. Trudeaus a fanboy of that very concept.

He also praised the tyrant Castro (human rights abuses and thousands of deaths ignored, as compared to the tens of millions the Chinese dictatorship is responsible), lied and banned guns and they even used the secrecy act to hide why, reduced sentences on violent criminals, Justin lied about budgets, ethics, SNC, WE, firearms, COVID, pipelines and the list goes on, he is the first PM to violate ethics rules, let's not forget his conflict of interest and reporter groping, he insults Veterans and first nation protesters but think ISIL are important contributors and pays off convicted terrorists without protest, calls for censorship and is to much an idiot to list all the provinces at a Canada 150 even (or he is an a** and deliberately left out Alberta) so in essence Justlied Trudeau is a liar and scum and the worst PM ever.

Based on the evidence his supporters show a lack in the moral and mental department.

[gbk]

I do not support Tyranny of any kind.
While I have no affiliation to China ,and I have no personal experience neither to judge or make educated opinion about what happens there(or in other parts of the word for that matter)it keeps me amazed all the time, that many in the free world take it upon themselves, to decide what is right or what is wrong in other countries.

Many time in a name of democracy, freedom and all this good stuff .

Somehow i am under impression,that while most of us have little or no experience, we judge heavily others ,based on MSM reports.
Yet we know-how fair and unbiased those reports are -don't we?

[Bushwhacker]

I do not support Tyranny of any kind.
While I have no affiliation to China ,and I have no personal experience neither to judge or make educated opinion about what happens there(or in other parts of the word for that matter)it keeps me amazed all the time, that many in the free world take it upon themselves, to decide what is right or what is wrong in other countries.

Many time in a name of democracy, freedom and all this good stuff .

Somehow i am under impression,that while most of us have little or no experience, we judge heavily others ,based on MSM reports.
Yet we know-how fair and unbiased those reports are -don't we?

Well it's not really msm reports, as most msm is not that critical of China. Major corporations like Nike, NBA, etc. all love the CCP because that's where their bread is buttered. And msm is careful as the absolute worst thing one can be nowadays according to liberals is a racist (even worse than being a pedophile). So we've seen police in the UK refuse to look into massive Muslim grooming gangs of underage girls for example, while literally beating down the doors of people who post a 'mean' tweet lol.

This is part of the unfortunate moral relativism brought on by the subversive Frankfurt school / postmodernism in academia, and the breakdown of our society I mentioned in the 'I get a kick out this' thread.

I agree in a sense that if we were more isolationist with regards to foreign policy, perhaps things would be different. At the same time, there are reasons why certain parts of the world did not develop the same as others. The middle east was fighting a never ending battle long before anyone from Europe made contact with these shores, and they will continue fighting until one group is destroyed or the other ceases to exist.

Part of a robust foreign policy is being proactive and not just responding to threats, which is often too late.

I have met many people from China who flat out tell me how absolutely corrupt it is there. It's no secret.
But many on the left sympathize with this system, while Canada & the US become more and more like them every day.

[Gilroy]

I do not support Tyranny of any kind.
While I have no affiliation to China ,and I have no personal experience neither to judge or make educated opinion about what happens there(or in other parts of the word for that matter)it keeps me amazed all the time, that many in the free world take it upon themselves, to decide what is right or what is wrong in other countries.

Many time in a name of democracy, freedom and all this good stuff .

Somehow i am under impression,that while most of us have little or no experience, we judge heavily others ,based on MSM reports.
Yet we know-how fair and unbiased those reports are -don't we?

Well short on going over to China and looking for yourself I guess your out of luck. It does not take much to imagine what is going on there but watching the suppression of demonstrators in Hong Kong or the plight of the 12 million Muslim Uyghurs, or our own Two Michaels held hostage.

So do you think this is all made up stuff by the MSM. Do you think 60 minutes and PBS just fake all their documentaries.

Have you never seen the CTV cameras all over China on these shows. Do you not believe Covid came from China?
I am sure you don't have personal experience with a ton of matters but is that a good excuse not to investigate.

[canadaman30]

Watching the video Justin appears to admire that the Chinese can get things done, there is no denying that. He is not saying he likes dictatorships and nowhere in the video did he say he admired China the most?
He cannot be a fan of banning guns as most of us have all the guns we had 40 years ago. He has banned certain guns would be more accurate.

Justin lied through his teeth, telling the room how China going green on the drop of a dime. Newsflash, Chinas the worst polluters on earth, and still building coal powered projects.
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[Gilroy]

Well it's not really msm reports, as most msm is not that critical of China. Major corporations like Nike, NBA, etc. all love the CCP because that's where their bread is buttered. And msm is careful as the absolute worst thing one can be nowadays according to liberals is a racist (even worse than being a pedophile). So we've seen police in the UK refuse to look into massive Muslim grooming gangs of underage girls for example, while literally beating down the doors of people who post a 'mean' tweet lol.

This is part of the unfortunate moral relativism brought on by the subversive Frankfurt school / postmodernism in academia, and the breakdown of our society I mentioned in the 'I get a kick out this' thread.

I agree in a sense that if we were more isolationist with regards to foreign policy, perhaps things would be different. At the same time, there are reasons why certain parts of the world did not develop the same as others. The middle east was fighting a never ending battle long before anyone from Europe made contact with these shores, and they will continue fighting until one group is destroyed or the other ceases to exist.

Part of a robust foreign policy is being proactive and not just responding to threats, which is often too late.

I have met many people from China who flat out tell me how absolutely corrupt it is there. It's no secret.
But many on the left sympathize with this system, while Canada & the US become more and more like them every day.

Maybe the media outfits you are watching are not critical of China, almost everyone I watch and you would say they are left leaning are VERY CRITICAL OF CHINA. CNN, PBS, CBC, 60 minutes have show after show and documentary after documentary on the human rights abuses in China. Your own Prime Minister is at odd's with China on those very abuses, so much so that we are now looking to trade with India more.

Maybe the Muslims you should be worried about are the 12 million in China being abused everyday, or the demonstrators in Hong Kong.

The middle east was no different from Europe with endless wars on both sides.

Except of course the MUSLIM WORLD has always been light years ahead of Europe in Science ,Astronomy, Architecture ,Mathematics.

Many on the right decided that giving China a hand's up and creating a cheap labor pool was a good idea for western companies and making them into capitalists. Well they used the capitalist model to their own end's and now we see the result.

A leader of the CCP a dictator, with visions of world domination, helped up not by the left in the west but by the right. Starting with Ronald Reagan, Nixon, they got them their start. Corruption is in every government in almost every country to some degree, but human rights abuses and constant surveillance is the norm in China.

[Gilroy]

Justin lied through his teeth, telling the room how China going green on the drop of a dime. Newsflash, Chinas the worst polluters on earth, and still building coal powered projects.
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No he did not say that in you posted video, maybe you need HEARING AIDS.

What Justin did say was " Their basic dictatorship is allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go greenest fastest ,we need to start y'know investing in solar. There is a flexibility that, I know Stephan Harper must dream about, of having a dictatorship that he can do everything he wanted, that I find quiet interesting."

So to make it simple for YOU ,he was saying the Chinese model had the ability to do these things very fast if they chose to do so and could turn their economy around on a dime if they chose to do so. This type of dictator ship is what Stephen HARPER would like to have.

SO Canadaman, Canadians decided Harper would not be getting his dictatorship and booted his arse to the curb along with his party, which is where they remain and will do so until they smarten up.

[rick_iles]

No he did not say that in you posted video, maybe you need HEARING AIDS.

What Justin did say was " Their basic dictatorship is allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime and say we need to go greenest fastest ,we need to start y'know investing in solar. There is a flexibility that, I know Stephan Harper must dream about, of having a dictatorship that he can do everything he wanted, that I find quiet interesting."

So to make it simple for YOU ,he was saying the Chinese model had the ability to do these things very fast if they chose to do so and could turn their economy around on a dime if they chose to do so. This type of dictator ship is what Stephen HARPER would like to have.

SO Canadaman, Canadians decided Harper would not be getting his dictatorship and booted his arse to the curb along with his party, which is where they remain and will do so until they smarten up.

Funny, you Kool-aid drinking’ liebrals always resort to, it’s Harper’s fault, or Harris’ fault…..you must be infatuated with Mr.Harper !!!!!