Omicron Hysteria

[Badenoch]

I'm not so sure about that.Attachment 42954

You can believe what Ezra says or you can actually read the research for yourself and draw your own conclusions.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...66v2.full-text

These two paragraphs are of interest.

By December 12, 2021, there were 5,767 identified Omicron cases in Denmark with a median age of 28 years (93% <60 years). Among those who had most recently completed primary vaccination, VE against Omicron was 55.2% (95% confidence interval: 23.5 to 73.7%) and 36.7% (−69.9 to 76.4%) for the BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, respectively, but with evidence of rapid waning over the course of five months.

It's been established the efficacy of the vaccine decreases against Omicron. That's why boosters are recommended

A recent study from England (in preprint) found higher effectiveness against symptomatic Omicron initially after BNT162b2 vaccination followed by a rapid decline in protection, and that VE increased to 75.5% (56.1 to 86.3%) two weeks after booster vaccination using unvaccinated individuals as comparison.

[GloHole]

You can believe what Ezra says or you can actually read the research for yourself and draw your own conclusions.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...66v2.full-text

These two paragraphs are of interest.



It's been established the efficacy of the vaccine decreases against Omicron. That's why boosters are recommended

I'll check it out in the morning.
Happy Festivus

[Cameracutter]

I'm not so sure about that.Attachment 42954

Just make sure to donate. Old Ezra needs your money to keep the rebel going. And those frivolous lawsuits don’t come cheap either.

[Cameracutter]

The media keeps twisting the results, but weeks into the Omicron wave and there is still no sign that is a big issue...like the rest of the world already knows.

Locally; Ottawa Public health published this:

Is everything the media’s fault in your world? You realize that the media is there to ask questions on behalf of the public. They are the messenger. I guess if they present facts that don’t align with your personal bias I can see how one would come to some paranoid conclusion but really, have you drunk so much Trump koolaid that unless they conform to your twisted version of some pseudoscience it’s all fake news or some kind of collusion or Cabal? You’re starting to sound more and more like Impact.

Speaking of Impact, he seems to have disappeared. Anyone know what happened to him? Hope he’s OK and just off at his yearly Russian misinformation education seminar.

[MikePal]

Is everything the media’s fault in your world? You realize that the media is there to ask questions on behalf of the public. They are the messenger.

Are you really that naive ???

Which headline did the MSM run with this Morning?

Over 10,00 new cases

or

Only 43 Hospitalized

[MikePal]

It's been established the efficacy of the vaccine decreases against Omicron. That's why boosters are recommended

The problem is, the Omicron variant has only been with us about a month. Any study of it now are still inconclusive as trial over only 30 days are really factually immature.

The real world data; over 10,000 positive cases reported and statistically 7-10x that many not reported due to the mildness of the symptoms, so no tests being done, in a province with 85% of the people double vaccinated before it hit.

....the obvious conclusion is the vaccine does not prevent infection of the virus and it's efficacy in preventing infection has diminished.

edit add: Oh and read down into the comments section.....looks like a lot of faults with this study are been pointed out...

[MikePal]

It's been established the efficacy of the vaccine decreases against Omicron. That's why boosters are recommended

The recommendations out of Isreal are quite the opposite...like I said, science data that is only 30 days old is not sufficient to recommend 'Boosters'.

The recommendation by an Israeli panel to administer a fourth vaccine to those who are over 60 is being met with a tepid response by some of the country's medical experts, who believe more data is needed.

"I supported the booster recommendation in July. But that time we had better evidence. Today, we don't have any good evidence," said Dr. Dror Mevorach, head of the coronavirus department at Hadassah University Hospital Ein Kare in Jerusalem.

"I think there is a great question about the impact of this fourth booster. I'm not sure it will help."

Mevorach told CBC News that unlike the decision to implement the third dose, which was met with wide approval, this recommendation is being questioned by some in the medical community.

"I would say that I got dozens of calls from both medical doctors and scientists saying to me that we think the same, that there's no evidence to give [a fourth dose} for the moment," he said.

"But I must say that medical or scientific evidence is not there," he said.

It may be better to wait for an Omicron specific booster, which both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna have indicated could be ready by March, he said.

Prof. Hagai Levine, an epidemiologist and chair of the Israel Association of Public Health Physicians, told the New York Times that while he respects the "better safe than sorry" opinion of the panel, "before giving a fourth shot, it is preferable to wait for the science."

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canad...say/ar-AAS8ohT

[MikePal]

Latest stats that don't support the Hysteria ;

The province logged 10,412 more COVID-19 cases and four new deaths, according to data from Public Health Ontario.

The latest figure represents a jump of 841 cases from the previous record set Friday when Ontario reported 9,571 cases. The province reported 5,790 on Thursday, 4,383 on Wednesday and 3,453 the day before that.


Overall there are 43 more COVID-19 patients in hospital and 9 more in the ICU in Ontario.

[Badenoch]

The problem is, the Omicron variant has only been with us about a month. Any study of it now are still inconclusive as trial over only 30 days are really factually immature.

The real world data; over 10,000 positive cases reported and statistically 7-10x that many not reported due to the mildness of the symptoms, so no tests being done, in a province with 85% of the people double vaccinated before it hit.

....the obvious conclusion is the vaccine does not prevent infection of the virus and it's efficacy in preventing infection has diminished.

edit add: Oh and read down into the comments section.....looks like a lot of faults with this study are been pointed out...

No disagreement however Ezra's conclusion is the vaccine makes people more vulnerable to infection which is stupid based on a review of the study he quoted.

We also don't disagree that the media is overblowing Omicron by focusing on case counts to the exclusion of hospitalizations. The good thing in our modern age is we don't need to depend on any "news media." It's not hard to find the same source material that the media uses and often it is quite different than the conclusions drawn by some wet behind the ears graduate of the Ryerson School of Journalism.

[FishHog]

I agree that the media is no doubt fear mongering, but I watched CTV news on the 24th.
Sure they lead off with the number of cases, but then broke that down by region, numbers in hospitals, number of deaths, number in ICU, and numbers of vaccinated vs unvaccinated.

Seemed pretty comprehensive to me, and sure doesn't take a genius to realize that vaccines aren't doing much to prevent transmission of omicron.

I just didn't see any big coverup of the actual data going on there. Not sure what the other media sources are doing as I don't watch them.