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January 1st, 2022, 01:06 PM
#41
So is Betty White the latest vaxx death??
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January 1st, 2022 01:06 PM
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January 1st, 2022, 01:07 PM
#42

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Well if you believe that the government over-exaggerates their info, it’s plausible that your sources might just be doing the same.
Prove me wrong.
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January 1st, 2022, 01:50 PM
#43

Originally Posted by
cramadog2
He conveniently left out a couple of facts primarily he says " only a miniscule amount of the spike protein is injected into you." It's purpose is to give your cells the recipe to make replicas of the spikey parts of the spike proteins, they were originally supposed to produce these proteins at the injection site in the muscle of your arm but we now know that's not the case they are replicated all over your body particularly in your organs. He is comparing an infectious viral load of spike protein to the amount of spike protein in the injection which is misleading because they are found through out the body which means a higher load not to mention the fact that the "vaccine" does not stop you from catching the virus which he is implying at the beginning. My 25 year old niece has contracted CV before the holidays despite being double vaxxed and boosted. Add to that the fact that virus is of little threat to children. Interestingly enough though this Dr. rips Dr. Malone also but for different reasons and shows the science. at the 24 minute mark however I recommend that you watch the whole thing from the beginning.
https://rumble.com/vro3sb-live-cathe...el-palmer.html
Last edited by GloHole; January 1st, 2022 at 01:54 PM.
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January 2nd, 2022, 09:21 AM
#44
There's two things both sides in this argument need to understand:
a) the vaccines do kill people
b) the vaccines kill less people in some age ranges than the virus (pre omicron)
It's not a black-and-white so people arguing that they know one person who had the vaccine and lived therefore the vaccines are safe or that someone they know had an adverse reaction to covid therefore vaccines are not safe fall pretty squarely into the idiot category.
Where the government has failed very badly is actually providing the information on how many and how severe reactions are.
People need to know this to make an informed decision on whether or not they should get vaccinated.
That the government conceals this information makes many skeptical about it.
I do know people in the medical field who can verify that VAERs is vastly under reported. They can prove this because they saw someone with a severe reaction to to the vaccine and cannot find it in VAERs later.
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January 2nd, 2022, 09:24 AM
#45

Originally Posted by
impact
Prove me wrong.

This was reported in the Ottawa Citizen on Friday.
It is official ontario government policy, but is going to be changed.
The reason for the policy is that the hospital gets a whack of federal money (that 400 billion, remember) every time they treat a covid patient.
So even the provincial government and hospitals were scamming the feds on covid money.
Makes the guys cheating on CERB look like small potatoes.
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January 2nd, 2022, 09:27 AM
#46

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Well if you believe that the government over-exaggerates their info, it’s plausible that your sources might just be doing the same.
If the governments and VAERs accurately reported vaccine reactions it would greatly undermine the other side.
People preaching that the vaccines are "safe" when we know there are not 100% safe creates a void that the other side is filling.
That is the source of the problem from my perspective.
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January 2nd, 2022, 09:51 AM
#47

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
That is the source of the problem from my perspective.
You're 100% right Werner.....the MSM/Government has NOT reported the whole truth (context of the data) since the beginning. This was to create fear in order to coerce the public into adhering to the health regulations etc.
This then created the problem that when people do hear the whole truth , they think it's misinformation.
Today is a good example...News: "Record-breaking 13,000 cases yesterday". In context , that represents only .08% of the population of Ont.
And that number will never be the headline.
With all the changes to the reporting of cases over the past few days, it's an indication the wheels have fallen off the Spin wagon...
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January 2nd, 2022, 09:54 AM
#48
Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
If the governments and VAERs accurately reported vaccine reactions it would greatly undermine the other side.
People preaching that the vaccines are "safe" when we know there are not 100% safe creates a void that the other side is filling.
That is the source of the problem from my perspective.
Some hands are legally tied on adverse reactions from vaccines
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January 2nd, 2022, 10:20 AM
#49

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
I do know people in the medical field who can verify that VAERs is vastly under reported. They can prove this because they saw someone with a severe reaction to to the vaccine and cannot find it in VAERs later.
VAERS is a U.S. program operated by the CDC and doesn't track Canadian cases. Are these "people in the medical field" in the U.S.? If they are in the U.S. why did not these "people in the medical field" report it to VAERS themselves? Also are these "people in the medical field" if they are in the U.S. aware that if they administered the vaccine they are legally required to report adverse reactions to VAERS?
https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

Originally Posted by
CDC
Healthcare providers who administer COVID-19 vaccines are required by law to report to VAERS the following after vaccination:
Also VAERS and the Canadian equivalent do not post names and specific details of individual cases therefore it would be unlikely any of your "people in the medical field" would know whether a specific case was listed or not.
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...accine-safety/
Last edited by Badenoch; January 2nd, 2022 at 10:34 AM.
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January 2nd, 2022, 11:05 AM
#50

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
If the governments and VAERs accurately reported vaccine reactions it would greatly undermine the other side.
People preaching that the vaccines are "safe" when we know there are not 100% safe creates a void that the other side is filling.
That is the source of the problem from my perspective.
Agreed. If official reports were done properly and accurately, it would allow the general population to make a better informed decision. By not doing so, the government left a void. It has allowed ALL manners of media to use their vivid imaginations to manipulate the weak data in which way they saw fit. This is probably the most genuine reason for such a divide in the public’s opinion on covid.
It will take time, but the truth will surface. Until then keep calm and carry on.