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January 2nd, 2022, 05:36 PM
#171

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Take a look at the data from Sweden...they didn't use Lockdowns. Their death rate is 9.1 : 1000 and Canada with 2 yrs of extensive lockdowns is 7.7: 1000. Statistically (1.4 : 1000 difference) so very close. We spent $400 Billion to get that.
We will send you a rebate cheque for your 5 dollar contribution.
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January 2nd, 2022 05:36 PM
# ADS
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January 2nd, 2022, 05:45 PM
#172

Originally Posted by
smitty55
You really need to check the dictionary. So if a private company mandates you have to get vaxxed to keep your job does that not mean you were coerced (forced) to get jabbed? There is no other way to look at it, except in your warped case it seems.
You are disposable as an employee wherever you go. To believe otherwise is silly. If a company introduces a mandate and asks employees to follow through, you have two choices:
1. Take it or 2. Leave it.
Not really coercion, you have a choice. Choose your employment elsewhere. Why this sense of entitlement?
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January 2nd, 2022, 05:50 PM
#173

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Not really coercion, you have a choice. Choose your employment elsewhere. Why this sense of entitlement?
The issue arises when you have a contract; Union or Government employees. They can't change the terms of employment or service and then try to fire you.
Especially in this case because vaccination isn't mandatory.
Last edited by MikePal; January 2nd, 2022 at 05:52 PM.
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January 2nd, 2022, 05:53 PM
#174

Originally Posted by
MikePal
Ahh no...even less plausible now because the Omicron has negated any aspect of preventing infections with the vaccine. 80% of all positive cases last week were in passport carrying 'Verified' people. They are more of a threat than the unvaccinated..
In fact, because they haven't stopped the use of the defunct passports confirms that the use of them is not for prevention at all, but for coercion to get more of unvaccinated to take the jab.
In reference to the article and at that time of the article my assumption makes sense. As of now I don’t have enough information on omicron, but it appears to be mild.
As for your assumption, I don’t have any proof to say otherwise, it will remain unknown. Until more information comes to light, we are in the dark.
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January 2nd, 2022, 05:55 PM
#175

Originally Posted by
MikePal
The issue arises when you have a contract; Union or Government employees. They can't change the terms of employment or service and then try to fire you.
Especially in this case because vaccination isn't mandatory.
Let the lawyers figure it out.
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January 2nd, 2022, 06:22 PM
#176

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Amazon’s business plan is putting many brick and mortar business’ out. Do we shut down Amazon?
China is a world leader in manufacturing. From a starving population to world leader in 50 years. Taking away many other countries’ manufacturing sectors. Do we cut China out?
The lockdowns were a knee jerk reaction to try to stop the spread it failed, maybe (we won’t know if it would have been worse otherwise). We can change the government with our votes!
Abandoning our own pandemic response plan in favour of adopting China's harsh lockdown policy based on the fake hysteria that people on the street were dropping like soccer players on a field is what killed and is killing brick and mortar small business, couple that with Amazons access to China's cheaply produced merchandise isn't helping them either. It's no wonder China is a world leader in manufacturing after 50 years of our tax dollars going towards subsidizing their venture of slave labour, poor working conditions, inferior materials, espionage and stolen intellectual property, paid for and installed politicians at many levels, a manipulated yuan, no regard for the environment and to top it off with further subsidy from their fentanyl smuggling/trade. Hardly a level playing field and in reality not much of a success story. Removal of those unfair advantages would make the world a better place. You might think your vote matters but that is an illusion, you can change the government but if they are all onboard and competing for the same corrupt corporate interests you will still arrive at the same destination wether you arrive there with a balanced budget or not is of little consequence. The wait and see approach is what got us this far down the hole in the first place.
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January 2nd, 2022, 06:30 PM
#177

Originally Posted by
GloryHole
Abandoning our own pandemic response plan in favour of adopting China's harsh lockdown policy based on the fake hysteria that people on the street were dropping like soccer players on a field is what killed and is killing brick and mortar small business, couple that with Amazons access to China's cheaply produced merchandise isn't helping them either. It's no wonder China is a world leader in manufacturing after 50 years of our tax dollars going towards subsidizing their venture of slave labour, poor working conditions, inferior materials, espionage and stolen intellectual property, paid for and installed politicians at many levels, a manipulated yuan, no regard for the environment and to top it off with further subsidy from their fentanyl smuggling/trade. Hardly a level playing field and in reality not much of a success story. Removal of those unfair advantages would make the world a better place. You might think your vote matters but that is an illusion, you can change the government but if they are all onboard and competing for the same corrupt corporate interests you will still arrive at the same destination wether you arrive there with a balanced budget or not is of little consequence. The wait and see approach is what got us this far down the hole in the first place.
That's a pretty good post Glory.
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January 2nd, 2022, 06:54 PM
#178

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
That's a pretty good post Glory.
Thank You Gilroy
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January 2nd, 2022, 06:56 PM
#179
[QUOTE=Bushwhacker;1185159]This is part of the blase and complacent attitude of most Canadians that allows these things to happen in the first place.
Wearing a mask is a severe violation of our rights. Especially since many of the 'experts' have said it doesn't work (the only masks having any measurable effect being N95 or greater). So that's a huge deal right there. It's a political symbol not a medical device. It's a sign of submission to the state and nothing more. This isn't the CCP last time I checked.
If a surgeon or dentist is operating on you are you violating their rights?
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January 2nd, 2022, 07:04 PM
#180

Originally Posted by
GloryHole
Abandoning our own pandemic response plan in favour of adopting China's harsh lockdown policy based on the fake hysteria that people on the street were dropping like soccer players on a field is what killed and is killing brick and mortar small business, couple that with Amazons access to China's cheaply produced merchandise isn't helping them either. It's no wonder China is a world leader in manufacturing after 50 years of our tax dollars going towards subsidizing their venture of slave labour, poor working conditions, inferior materials, espionage and stolen intellectual property, paid for and installed politicians at many levels, a manipulated yuan, no regard for the environment and to top it off with further subsidy from their fentanyl smuggling/trade. Hardly a level playing field and in reality not much of a success story. Removal of those unfair advantages would make the world a better place. You might think your vote matters but that is an illusion, you can change the government but if they are all onboard and competing for the same corrupt corporate interests you will still arrive at the same destination wether you arrive there with a balanced budget or not is of little consequence. The wait and see approach is what got us this far down the hole in the first place.
Corporate greed is what got us here. Unfettered capitalist thirst for power and money will keep us here. Over use and abuse of resources is what will destroy us.
Last edited by Birdbuff; January 2nd, 2022 at 07:07 PM.