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January 28th, 2022, 08:47 PM
#131

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
I get your point, but the federal government isn’t responsible for ALL the mandates.
Why not?
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January 28th, 2022 08:47 PM
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January 28th, 2022, 08:52 PM
#132
As someone pointed out the Federal government is a minority government. They need the backing of other parties to govern. So sole responsibility isn’t that easy. Also provincial governments have jurisdiction over their respective provinces. Private companies have jurisdiction over their companies, etc.
It’s pretty simple to blame the Liberals and Trudeau. They’re soft targets. But can they be held solely responsible? I think not.
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January 28th, 2022, 09:02 PM
#133

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
As someone pointed out the Federal government is a minority government. They need the backing of other parties to govern. So sole responsibility isn’t that easy. Also provincial governments have jurisdiction over their respective provinces. Private companies have jurisdiction over their companies, etc.
It’s pretty simple to blame the Liberals and Trudeau. They’re soft targets. But can they be held solely responsible? I think not.
Well it's refreshing to see that we now have an opposition party hopefully some of those truckers will run for office. Who would you recommend we hold responsible?
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January 28th, 2022, 09:10 PM
#134

Originally Posted by
GloryHole
Well it's refreshing to see that we now have an opposition party hopefully some of those truckers will run for office. Who would you recommend we hold responsible?
Tricky question. I’m not interested in holding anyone responsible. Call me lucky, the mandates have had little impact on my life. I think the mandates were put in place by people who interpreted the data in a certain way. Situations are always changing, and new data is always being produced. Should some disagree, I strongly encourage those that want to protest to use the data and prove those in power wrong. I think more of a statement would be made by using science and data to make a change, then screaming and hollering anti-government rhetoric.
Beat them at their own game kinda thing.
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January 28th, 2022, 09:15 PM
#135

Originally Posted by
GloryHole
Well it's refreshing to see that we now have an opposition party hopefully some of those truckers will run for office. Who would you recommend we hold responsible?
CHINA.
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January 28th, 2022, 09:26 PM
#136

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
I get your point, but the federal government isn’t responsible for ALL the mandates.
No him out there every day spewing to get vaccinated and the liberal party trying their hardest for the provincial leaders to make more mandates . That's not on the federal government at all I guess. They are a big push on it
Then if for stayed open the liberals say its unsafe and is reckless lol.
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January 28th, 2022, 09:35 PM
#137

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
CHINA.
It's easy to blame China for everything but there are things like personal responsibility, due diligence, and fiduciary duty.
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January 28th, 2022, 09:51 PM
#138

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Tricky question. I’m not interested in holding anyone responsible. Call me lucky, the mandates have had little impact on my life. I think the mandates were put in place by people who interpreted the data in a certain way. Situations are always changing, and new data is always being produced. Should some disagree, I strongly encourage those that want to protest to use the data and prove those in power wrong. I think more of a statement would be made by using science and data to make a change, then screaming and hollering anti-government rhetoric.
Beat them at their own game kinda thing.
Interpreted and manipulated are two different animals. Why are we not evolving with the data then? There's been a million dollars on the table since the beginning of this to prove that the virus exists in a human that is still unclaimed. How do you prove the so called experts wrong if they won't accept the challenge of scientific debate and why are the top doctors and scientists in their fields silenced and stripped of their credentials without debate? You'll have your work cut out for yourself trying to beat them at their own game when the deck is stacked.
Those are the facts so what do you propose we do now?
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January 29th, 2022, 07:45 AM
#139

Originally Posted by
GloryHole
Interpreted and manipulated are two different animals. Why are we not evolving with the data then? There's been a million dollars on the table since the beginning of this to prove that the virus exists in a human that is still unclaimed. How do you prove the so called experts wrong if they won't accept the challenge of scientific debate and why are the top doctors and scientists in their fields silenced and stripped of their credentials without debate? You'll have your work cut out for yourself trying to beat them at their own game when the deck is stacked.
Those are the facts so what do you propose we do now?
If the number of doctors and nurses that opposed the mandates numbered in the majority, do you think that they would honestly be silent? There is power in numbers. But my gut tells me that the healthcare sector IS overwhelmed by this virus and most healthcare professionals have first hand experience in how infection rates are crippling the system.
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January 29th, 2022, 09:19 AM
#140

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
If the number of doctors and nurses that opposed the mandates numbered in the majority, do you think that they would honestly be silent? There is power in numbers. But my gut tells me that the healthcare sector IS overwhelmed by this virus and most healthcare professionals have first hand experience in how infection rates are crippling the system.
Not sure what a majority has to do with science other than to prove the majority are cowards and corrupt. Ever seen a dog run a majority of sheep? Hmmn I'd stop listening to your gut if I were you and try with your ears, your batting average ain't that hot.