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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    In Eastern European countries there is a growing nostalgia for communism particularly among older people who arguably would have been better off under the old system than they are today. Replacing commissars with oligarchs has not made their lives better.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can...ging-for-past/
    Are you opposed to to great reset what are your thoughts?

    For the better what is the cost and what does it really mean.

    Are you ok with our current government using the pandemic as an opportunity?

    I personally don't like it . I will admit there needs to be some discussion moving forward but what this organization wants is a scary future. With no clear plan but to own it all.




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    What's even more scary is this is an organization

    How much of our tax dollars goes into supporting this ?

    This is not the government we elected as officials to run our country they have partnership with an organization that wants total control.

    So who really is running our government if our government follows this organization?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    Are you opposed to to great reset what are your thoughts?

    For the better what is the cost and what does it really mean.

    Are you ok with our current government using the pandemic as an opportunity?

    I personally don't like it . I will admit there needs to be some discussion moving forward but what this organization wants is a scary future. With no clear plan but to own it all.
    I'm not afraid of it because like so many other great WEF master plans this one is destined to die on the vine or at least not live up to their grandiose expectations. "Great Reset" is a slogan. Some people will rally around it, other people will be frightened by it, most of the world will ignore it. I'm in the third group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbuff View Post
    I thought I’d start a new thread instead of hijacking another.

    I’m trying to be impartial here.

    Is it remotely possible that the idea of the “great reset” was invented by the extremely far right as a way to create division? We are seeing the rise of right leaning nationalism in Europe and in the US. For the most part Canada has been quiet. I’ve only seen this idea pop up in recent history, during or after Trump was ousted.

    I’m just wondering if anyone is connecting the dots that this idea is a win-win for right leaning individuals. On one hand it is causing a divide and disturbance for the left. On the other it is emboldening the centre right or perhaps centre left to lean further right. If it doesn’t materialize the right can claim they prevented it. If it was just propaganda and it fades away, they can claim the same.

    If it’s true or not it works as a great political weapon (fear).

    I’m sure there is lots of information that will be shared here, but can that information be truthful and can it be fact checked. Let’s see tangible evidence and not here say or assumptions.
    Why do you think The Great reset idea makes ppl lean towards right?
    What data or info makes You think that.

    Even if the Global reset was invented by the far right(could be- OR another Conspiracy theory?) -it is highly unlikely(and partially demeaning to imply so)to assume,whoever leans to the right is gulliable,and not thinking for themselves.

    I would ask this question differently-what are the reasons ppl lean towards right lately?

    Perhaps the left lost some credibility,or perhaps ppl are opening their eyes more( technological progress-internet,cell phones,social media),or perhaps the people are fed up with carrying all the burden of the world on their shoulders,and being responsible for things they have nothing to do with-but impacting them day in ,day out?The list can be quite long.

    Perhaps the left wants to think-they are losing support due of some "magic".Deflection of the cause of the problem........

    Just another opinion.........peace.
    Last edited by gbk; February 9th, 2022 at 05:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    I'm not afraid of it because like so many other great WEF master plans this one is destined to die on the vine. "Great Reset" is a slogan. Some people will rally around it, other people will be frightened by it, most of the world will ignore it. I'm in the third group.
    How do ignore it when they will produce so many policy's

    They want obedience and play out their own unique culture.

    Many will own nothing and be happy, if your not a mastermind you will have nothing . Their own words.

    Pulling out the political that are on board is a good starting point.

    They want to own the people it goes way beyond for the better of us . The world has had plenty of time and resources to fix the issues at hand but nothing ever changed.

    Then it comes to the issues of who is really making the decisions our leadership for Canadians or an organization that wants to own the world.





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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    How do ignore it when they will produce so many policy's

    They want obedience and play out their own unique culture.

    Many will own nothing and be happy, if your not a mastermind you will have nothing . Their own words.

    Pulling out the political that are on board is a good starting point.

    They want to own the people it goes way beyond for the better of us . The world has had plenty of time and resources to fix the issues at hand but nothing ever changed.

    Then it comes to the issues of who is really making the decisions our leadership for Canadians or an organization that wants to own the world.





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    Really makes you wonder who is pushing these current mandates? Big businesses big tech and government are all in this together.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    In Eastern European countries there is a growing nostalgia for communism particularly among older people who arguably would have been better off under the old system than they are today. Replacing commissars with oligarchs has not made their lives better.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/can...ging-for-past/
    Pardon, you are referring an opinion piece with picture of Stalin as representative of whole Russia? It's pretty much like referring to Nazi site in Canada stating that Canada has nostalgia of 3rd Reich..

    Have you tried to search any nostalgia article in Soviet satellites ( Estonia, Bulgaria, etc...)? Am pretty sure there will be none.. In Russia, for each nostalgic person- there will be 100s who had family members that got killed/jailed during Stalin's time.
    I do agree with your observation that oligarchy has replaced the commissars; however not going to dig into the reasons for it.

    Something to be stated through that I was referring to global communist regime scenario..
    In case of separate countries:
    You have relative freedom of movement (one country/system/society does not work for you, immigrate)
    You have some chance (it maybe small but it's a chance) to making to life that matches you

    In case of a central world govt - you got nowhere to run or hide.

    People will always group themselves according to a common value system.. it's inevitable that multiple separate groups will be formed.
    The smaller the group the closer its members to ruling class and more agile the group is - making life easier for everyone involved...




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    Excellent mature, respectful discussion gentlemen; thank you. I learn a lot reading your posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    How do ignore it when they will produce so many policy's

    They want obedience and play out their own unique culture.

    Many will own nothing and be happy, if your not a mastermind you will have nothing . Their own words.

    Pulling out the political that are on board is a good starting point.

    They want to own the people it goes way beyond for the better of us . The world has had plenty of time and resources to fix the issues at hand but nothing ever changed.

    Then it comes to the issues of who is really making the decisions our leadership for Canadians or an organization that wants to own the world.
    There is a difference between adopting a policy and actually implementing it. Signing off on a communique at the conclusion of the annual WEF festivities in Davos is a long way from making a meaningful change to the life of Canadians. As long as we still get to vote parties in or out the Great Reset is just so much hot air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbiehunter View Post
    Pardon, you are referring an opinion piece with picture of Stalin as representative of whole Russia? It's pretty much like referring to Nazi site in Canada stating that Canada has nostalgia of 3rd Reich..

    Have you tried to search any nostalgia article in Soviet satellites ( Estonia, Bulgaria, etc...)? Am pretty sure there will be none.. In Russia, for each nostalgic person- there will be 100s who had family members that got killed/jailed during Stalin's time.
    I do agree with your observation that oligarchy has replaced the commissars; however not going to dig into the reasons for it.

    Something to be stated through that I was referring to global communist regime scenario..
    In case of separate countries:
    You have relative freedom of movement (one country/system/society does not work for you, immigrate)
    You have some chance (it maybe small but it's a chance) to making to life that matches you

    In case of a central world govt - you got nowhere to run or hide.

    People will always group themselves according to a common value system.. it's inevitable that multiple separate groups will be formed.
    The smaller the group the closer its members to ruling class and more agile the group is - making life easier for everyone involved...
    Since 2012 I've done work for a Canadian company that has business operations in Bulgaria and Serbia and have been to the region a least a dozen times mostly in Bulgaria , twice for extended periods. Some of the work involved public opinion polling in Bulgaria and we saw evidence of softening attitudes towards communism particularly among older people.

    I have Bulgarian colleagues and friends who say life for some people, particularly the elderly, was better under the former regime. Although it is getting better when I was spending a lot of time there senior's pensions were the lowest in the EU and below the poverty line. I'd often see well-kempt elderly people in clean but very old clothes panhandling. I have no problem walking by street beggars but not when the looked like your grandparents. Some evening strolls became expensive.

    Here are articles from Pew Research and Reuters that reflect what I saw in Bulgaria.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...-of-communism/

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...5A701320091108

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