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February 17th, 2022, 08:38 PM
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Lets talk numbers and facts
Lets talk straight numbers once ,in this ,far and wide drawing out political debate(and many times needlessly drawn out with-I am just not letting go ,because someone has to do it approach).
Lets talk hard numbers.
PC has-eliminated 2% of our Tax burden.We are from 15 % total tax,down to 13%. Harper.
Liberals have merged HST and PST in Ontario-eventhough it was opposed by great majority of Ontarians. This tax costs all of us,day after day, where before we did not have to pay GST on many items,now we do ,thru HST. Mc Guity.
PC has eliminate the costly and greatly opposed Gun Registry. Harper
Liberals brought it in. Cost Canadians(us ) untold amount of money-which we will all pay back ,like it or not. Chretien
Liberals are ramping up Taxation thru Carbon tax(never find out-how the tax will actually help the issue-but for sure cost us all a lot of money)
Pitch in -with hard numbers, where any of the major parties helped the Tax paying-working Canadians keep more of their hard earned money.
Lets see-who looks after the financial interest of the hard working folks,by letting them(us)keep more of it-for our own needs.
Leave the "soft"benefits-just talk money.
Last edited by gbk; February 17th, 2022 at 08:53 PM.
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February 17th, 2022 08:38 PM
# ADS
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February 17th, 2022, 08:54 PM
#2
Numbers and facts all depend on how you present them.
Presented a different way will change the story.
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February 17th, 2022, 09:09 PM
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Has too much time on their hands

Originally Posted by
gbk
Lets talk straight numbers once ,in this ,far and wide drawing out political debate(and many times needlessly drawn out with-I am just not letting go ,because someone has to do it approach).
Lets talk hard numbers.
PC has-eliminated 2% of our Tax burden.We are from 15 % total tax,down to 13%. Harper.
Liberals have merged HST and PST in Ontario-eventhough it was opposed by great majority of Ontarians. This tax costs all of us,day after day, where before we did not have to pay GST on many items,now we do ,thru HST. Mc Guity.
PC has eliminate the costly and greatly opposed Gun Registry. Harper
Liberals brought it in. Cost Canadians(us ) untold amount of money-which we will all pay back ,like it or not. Chretien
Liberals are ramping up Taxation thru Carbon tax(never find out-how the tax will actually help the issue-but for sure cost us all a lot of money)
Pitch in -with hard numbers, where any of the major parties helped the Tax paying-working Canadians keep more of their hard earned money.
Lets see-who looks after the financial interest of the hard working folks,by letting them(us)keep more of it-for our own needs.
Leave the "soft"benefits-just talk money.
Reducing the HST saved Canadians billions, this propaganda article (taxes are good, people and businesses should give them to gov't) from PressProgress (usually known for lying) CLAIMS
https://pressprogress.ca/stephen_har...tax_giveaways/
The Conservative anti-tax brigade is spending $43 billion on tax giveaways this year, a new report estimates.
A Parliamentary Budget Office report released Tuesday examined changes to Canada’s tax system between 2005 and 2013 for personal incomes taxes and the GST/HST. It found that the accumulation of cuts since 2005 will reduce federal personal income tax revenues this year by an estimated $17.1 billion and the federal share of the GST/HST revenue by $13.3 billion.
Their numbers and spin and anti-Harper fiction makes for an amusing article, IF you like keeping your own money and think those that work for it deserve it. Seems like motivation to NOT vote for the left if you work hard and think you earned it, the ones that don't work hard and the left think you should give it to the government and hate Harper for letting people get caught up or get ahead.
Well don't forget that Harper changed the pensions MP contribution and requirements. Under the old system the contributions were less than 1/2 after the change and we see that some of the MPs like Maryam Monsef DIDN'T get their pension because of the changes Harper made. IF Trudeau had waited I think it was 6 more weeks they would have got their pensions, shows how much he watches out for his MPs.
We see Trudeau violating ethics rules, lying and spending $250,000 to go on a vacation to the Agha Khan island and who knows how much more and millions on renovations at the residences.
Then there is the budgets and we see the Libs doubled the debt and even their promise to balance the deficit in 2019 was a lie.
Harper mocks
Budgets ... Liberal "truth" is a $100B lie
As for where the money went ... they lost so many projects and were unaccountable in the last 2 years. #LibsDontCare it is taxpayer money.
Last edited by mosquito; February 17th, 2022 at 09:21 PM.
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February 18th, 2022, 06:43 AM
#4

Originally Posted by
Woodsman
Numbers and facts all depend on how you present them.
Presented a different way will change the story.
I left the thread open to discussion,and invited opinions(number facts though) so go ahead
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February 18th, 2022, 07:04 AM
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Didn’t Brian Mulroney introduce us to the GST ?
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February 18th, 2022, 08:16 AM
#6

Originally Posted by
Birdbuff
Didn’t Brian Mulroney introduce us to the GST ?
Yes, it was one thing that caused the total collapse of the Federal Conservative party at the time.
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February 18th, 2022, 08:16 AM
#7
trudeau just announced record immigration for the next three years! that should help housing affordability and really do wonders to help improve our over-burdened health system!!
2022: 431,645 permanent residents
2023: 447,055 permanent residents
2024: 451,000 permanent residents
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February 18th, 2022, 08:36 AM
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They might not find that many people who want to come in. How many are leaving?
Thank gbk.
Facts should be the same for everyone.
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February 18th, 2022, 09:03 AM
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Inflation just hit 5.1 percent and its only going to get worse not better lol.
Everyone is paying more for less in a time when the people are in need of help. But don't worry thought the government has its best interests in the Canadians who are already struggling.
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February 18th, 2022, 09:27 AM
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Government using misleading statistics on vaccine using months of unvaccinated data while we had little shots in arms.
Facts
Around half the deaths for the year were calculated before 3.8 % of the population was vaccinated. They used 3 months of our darkest days to claim they work since the start of vaccines .
Misleading statistics.
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