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    QUOTE = Birdbuff; The internet serves as a great database for information. Unfortunately it’s also used for misinformation for various purposes. None of these purposes serve to enhance our society.


    Here is the catch-whom is to decide what information is containing "real truth " ,and whos information is a misinformation.
    As long as MSM caters so lopsided for the left and far left-every other information is labeled far right and misinformation.



    Information needs to enhance our society-is this a measure? who is to decide what enhances our society? under what authority?

    Reminds me more and more of the Iron Curtain era-people who happened to be east of it, would hear and see the world ,as the Eastern(Communist) Government wanted them to see.
    Luckily there was radio and the Voice of America and the Free Europe Radio( both were to some degree biased ) .Yet they were both showing the "other side of the coin".
    They both enabled people to keep their common sense and critical thinking.
    Many did-and they saw thru the TRUE great Propaganda from the east-and the somewhat great Propaganda from the West .

    People would risk their lives and climb Fire towers for better radio reception(Communist did everything they could, to suppress radio emissions from the West).

    If we want to live in a Plural world-every opinion matters!

    (unless terroristic - genocidal-criminal etc ...etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    The solution was quite simple, make it known if you show up unvaccinated to medical centers for to be treated for symptoms COVID, you will be added to the list of non-urgent surgeries, and send them home. Those who can provide viable justification for not being vaccinated will get admitted and treated. That way, the unvaccinated have their freedom of choice, and hopefully will not come in contact with a virulent case of the virus which they have reservations about existing. That should allow for a person's freedom of choice to face natural consequence as opposed to government mandates. That may even speed up society's movement towards herd immunity.

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    Sounds like a great idea maybe they'll implement that for the upcoming VAIDS pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gbk View Post
    QUOTE = Birdbuff; The internet serves as a great database for information. Unfortunately it’s also used for misinformation for various purposes. None of these purposes serve to enhance our society.


    Here is the catch-whom is to decide what information is containing "real truth " ,and whos information is a misinformation.
    As long as MSM caters so lopsided for the left and far left-every other information is labeled far right and misinformation.



    Information needs to enhance our society-is this a measure? who is to decide what enhances our society? under what authority?

    Reminds me more and more of the Iron Curtain era-people who happened to be east of it, would hear and see the world ,as the Eastern(Communist) Government wanted them to see.
    Luckily there was radio and the Voice of America and the Free Europe Radio( both were to some degree biased ) .Yet they were both showing the "other side of the coin".
    They both enabled people to keep their common sense and critical thinking.
    Many did-and they saw thru the TRUE great Propaganda from the east-and the somewhat great Propaganda from the West .

    People would risk their lives and climb Fire towers for better radio reception(Communist did everything they could, to suppress radio emissions from the West).

    If we want to live in a Plural world-every opinion matters!

    (unless terroristic - genocidal-criminal etc ...etc)
    Excellemt post. We need a "like" button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbk View Post
    QUOTE = Birdbuff; The internet serves as a great database for information. Unfortunately it’s also used for misinformation for various purposes. None of these purposes serve to enhance our society.


    Here is the catch-whom is to decide what information is containing "real truth " ,and whos information is a misinformation.
    As long as MSM caters so lopsided for the left and far left-every other information is labeled far right and misinformation.



    Information needs to enhance our society-is this a measure? who is to decide what enhances our society? under what authority?

    Reminds me more and more of the Iron Curtain era-people who happened to be east of it, would hear and see the world ,as the Eastern(Communist) Government wanted them to see.
    Luckily there was radio and the Voice of America and the Free Europe Radio( both were to some degree biased ) .Yet they were both showing the "other side of the coin".
    They both enabled people to keep their common sense and critical thinking.
    Many did-and they saw thru the TRUE great Propaganda from the east-and the somewhat great Propaganda from the West .

    People would risk their lives and climb Fire towers for better radio reception(Communist did everything they could, to suppress radio emissions from the West).

    If we want to live in a Plural world-every opinion matters!

    (unless terroristic - genocidal-criminal etc ...etc)
    And here we have the conundrum. The big questions of who decides what is best. There is no simple answer. You can’t make everyone happy. On one hand I think that the majority of opinion holds weight, but at the cost of the minority. On the other hand if we try to please the minority, there will be a larger group affected. Then there’s always the do nothing and let things happen organically approach.

    A lot of responsibility falls upon the population and which direction it leans. I think some people have trouble being impartial. I think critical thinking is being overrun by emotional reactions. Angry people tend to be irrational.

    Lately I’ve seen the msm more vilified than ever in the past. Why is that? Are they not all independent journalists just reporting the stories happening? Is it a case of wrong information being presented or a case of not agreeing with the information? This goes equally for right leaning media. They share information in contrast to the msm. So then who is presenting a clearer more accurate reality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbuff View Post
    Lately I’ve seen the msm more vilified than ever in the past. Why is that? Are they not all independent journalists just reporting the stories happening? Is it a case of wrong information being presented or a case of not agreeing with the information? This goes equally for right leaning media. They share information in contrast to the msm. So then who is presenting a clearer more accurate reality?
    That's imo that because MSM has been uncontrollably blocking opposing views.
    Yes those might be independent journalists, but the editors decide who's material get aired and who's get blocked. So the end result is those independents start only providing the material/views that they will get paid for. Other independents just leave the system
    Same goes the overall organization, they are loosing viewership by day, so they need to create more provocative stories or air govt supporting material get the monetary grands from public money. The question is - if CBC is public entity supported by public money - why only 1 side of views being presented? Right wing media MUST be included in the service and let the viewers decide what believe or not.. but the propaganda machine is in full force.

    This whole situation ends up with media bubbles, where labels are attached to people just trying to figure out what is actually going on..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbuff View Post
    And here we have the conundrum. The big questions of who decides what is best. There is no simple answer. You can’t make everyone happy. On one hand I think that the majority of opinion holds weight, but at the cost of the minority. On the other hand if we try to please the minority, there will be a larger group affected. Then there’s always the do nothing and let things happen organically approach.
    If you referring to vaxx mandates, then who decides that one minority is better then the other?
    We are supporting bunch of other minorities with public funds.. whereas nonvaxx "minority" has been stripped from their ability to provide for themselves and their families.. Sounds like a fascism to me.
    "Do nothing" - the damage has already been done, so do nothing is not an option for those has been affected.

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    They don't even tell you the information at the government level even if you ask lol

    https://youtu.be/rFTVCJr8-qg

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishfood View Post
    They don't even tell you the information at the government level even if you ask lol

    https://youtu.be/rFTVCJr8-qg

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    How can you honestly answer a question that is so ridiculous in nature? You may as well ask if Bigfoot was an elected cabinet member. It is a fantasy driven question meant to stir the pot, nothing more.

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    He wants to know who has their foot in the door at the WEF
    With their agenda and opportunities should the public not be aware . This isn't the first time they have done this while asking other questions.

    It's a reasonable question it would be nice to know the plans as well. . Can we ask questions the people want to know .


    It's not a hard question lol



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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbuff View Post
    How can you honestly answer a question that is so ridiculous in nature? You may as well ask if Bigfoot was an elected cabinet member. It is a fantasy driven question meant to stir the pot, nothing more.
    Lol exactly.

    Thats exactly the ridiculous paradigm of nowdays of silencing those who ask legit questions

    Question is asked by one elected official to another. Does not matter what the question is.
    It need to be answered not silenced !

    There is a reason why its called question period.







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