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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    You are probably forgetting the small details like your home already doubling or tripling in value? How about your stocks and bonds.

    Now lets be honest GW you were talking 15% return last year... On my modest pension fund they did 15.7%.
    Well that's great news for MPACT. Let's not leave out any small details like inflation, don't worry though even you will own nothing and be happy.

    I would've thought Jagsmeet would of learned something about his partner in crime when he invoked and rescinded the Emergencies act.

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    The issue isn't so much that the Liberals have created what amounts to a coalition Govt with the NDP....it's that the CPC can't seem to put forward a decent enough candidate, that can get enough traction to not shoot themselves in the face. Or, when election time comes, many right leaning voters get stupid and waste their vote on a party candidate that, while having a decent enough platform, stand absolutely zero chance of forming a government. (PPC anyone?).

    If Conservative voters could genuinely learn to be more strategic in their vote, it would result in greater success....instead we look at the Government from the opposition side of the house, and cry foul because someone was more strategic than us, and was able to actually find a common ground.

    Incidentally, coalition governments are quite common.

    I respectfully suggest that The OFAH, and members on here decide early on strategy prior to the next election, and get everyone on the same page, or we'll be looking at a similar scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.A. in TO View Post
    No. We are the same country as we were yesterday except we have hope that universal health care will move one step closer to actually being universal
    It will be a horrible system like it is now and it will cost so much that we will have to cut it in no time.

    I am all for it but the problem is the people who are allowed to give out the money. The hospitals are expanding like crazy and costing a ton more money with less and less going to support the actual patients, don't think for one second that this will not be the case with dental as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebulldog View Post
    The issue isn't so much that the Liberals have created what amounts to a coalition Govt with the NDP....it's that the CPC can't seem to put forward a decent enough candidate, that can get enough traction to not shoot themselves in the face. Or, when election time comes, many right leaning voters get stupid and waste their vote on a party candidate that, while having a decent enough platform, stand absolutely zero chance of forming a government. (PPC anyone?).

    If Conservative voters could genuinely learn to be more strategic in their vote, it would result in greater success....instead we look at the Government from the opposition side of the house, and cry foul because someone was more strategic than us, and was able to actually find a common ground.

    Incidentally, coalition governments are quite common.

    I respectfully suggest that The OFAH, and members on here decide early on strategy prior to the next election, and get everyone on the same page, or we'll be looking at a similar scenario.
    Yep, the PPC voters are the reason JT got in again anyway, split the vote and hand all the seats to the Liberals. Justin thanks you for your vote.

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    People who live life on credit cards eventually get bailed out by the rest of us. Who’s going to bail out Canada ? Our allies are in worse shape than us
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    This is not the first time something like this has happened. In 1985, Bob Rae, then Ontario NDP Leader, and Liberal Leader David Peterson reached an "accord" that defeated the PC government of Frank Miller in return for certain legislative commitments. It is also not in the truest sense a "coalition government" as there are no NDP MPs being appointed to Cabinet.

    If there is any good news it is that 3 years of stability just might allow the CPC to get its act together.

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    Agreed, but on the other hand, after three more years of corruption and Trudeau, who in their right mind would want to inherit the mess !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GloHole View Post
    Well that's great news for MPACT. Let's not leave out any small details like inflation, don't worry though even you will own nothing and be happy.

    I would've thought Jagsmeet would of learned something about his partner in crime when he invoked and rescinded the Emergencies act.
    MPACT hasn't done property assessment's since 2017 property taxes going way up

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    Quote Originally Posted by FishHog View Post
    Greedy people will freely sell their childrens future off for some free dental care today.

    Unbelievable.
    Someday people will realize that in fact budgets don’t balance themselves but it will be far too late and Trudeau will be living even higher on the hog than he is now
    Greedy people? The dental plan idea is only for families who take in less that $90 000 a year.
    My family was very poor. No one got to go to the dentist. I got to go to the dentist for the first time when I was 21 years old (first real job). Unless one has been been poor they don't understand not being able to pay for dental care ,nor not being able to pay for drugs prescribed by your Dr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon View Post
    Greedy people? The dental plan idea is only for families who take in less that $90 000 a year.
    My family was very poor. No one got to go to the dentist. I got to go to the dentist for the first time when I was 21 years old (first real job). Unless one has been been poor they don't understand not being able to pay for dental care ,nor not being able to pay for drugs prescribed by your Dr.
    I’m all for helping out the truly poor. 90k isn’t that limit in my mind. Although I’ll qualify and won’t have to pay for my dental and prescriptions anymore.
    In theory I should be happy, but in reality I don’t think I should get that on the backs of the future generations
    I don’t think anything should be free. It just devalues it and leads to more corruption. There should always be a fee. Heavily subsidized for those who really need it be never $0
    Perhaps if we stopped lining the government’s pockets most of us could afford the basics and be able to help those truly in need

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