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    The Alberta government has announced that they won't support or participate in the federal plan to confiscate guns that have been banned under the latest laws. The first 90 seconds of the video clearly shows how the Alberta government views the new law. It will be interesting to see how other provinces respond. Will the OPP be solicited to do the same thing the RCMP has been asked to do in Alberta?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtRZAZGUauc
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    Thanx for sharing- Alberta is the strongest supporter in Canada of values constantly under attack by the many in power, the woke crowd ,and by the unawares.
    Last edited by gbk; September 28th, 2022 at 06:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmer View Post
    The Alberta government has announced that they won't support or participate in the federal plan to confiscate guns that have been banned under the latest laws. The first 90 seconds of the video clearly shows how the Alberta government views the new law. It will be interesting to see how other provinces respond. Will the OPP be solicited to do the same thing the RCMP has been asked to do in Alberta?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtRZAZGUauc
    Alberta has a long history of fighting the federal Government in Court and losing. The Supreme Court of Canada many year ago affirmed that firearms legislation is the responsibility of the Federal Government. Being part of Canada is not like a buffet table where you pick and choose what laws you wish go follow and what laws you decide you will ignore. The OPP will probably not be solicited this way as Doug Ford believes in the rule of law as was amply displayed with his actions during the Covid Crisis and so called freedom convoy. Even if he decided to play along there are hundreds of Municipal Police Services in Ontario that would be directed otherwise by their Police Services Boards. If landlocked Alberta thinks it can pull of a solo act and prosper, I say good luck with that.

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    Your wrong, you can pick and choose which law's your province will follow. Quebec does this all the time.
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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    The western provinces aren't saying they won't enforce the law. What they are saying is they do not want the police they pay for diverted from their regular duties to manage and participate in the confiscation process.

    Enforcing the law means if some gang banger is found with a Vz58 the firearm would be seized and he could be charged. It does not mean being a collection service and driving out to pick up Grandpa's rusty Mini-14. OPP resources in rural areas are stretched thin enough and the last thing we need is for them to be taken off patrol for the federal government's pet gun control project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greatwhite View Post
    Your wrong, you can pick and choose which law's your province will follow. Quebec does this all the time.
    Well that is because the previous Conservative Prime Minister Stephen HARPER recognized Quebec as a separate Nation.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGuLE7zmcqM

    If you knew your history you would already know that Quebec law is unique in Canada because Quebec is the only province in Canada to have a juridical legal system under which civil matters are regulated by French-heritage civil law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    The western provinces aren't saying they won't enforce the law. What they are saying is they do not want the police they pay for diverted from their regular duties to manage and participate in the confiscation process.

    Enforcing the law means if some gang banger is found with a Vz58 the firearm would be seized and he could be charged. It does not mean being a collection service and driving out to pick up Grandpa's rusty Mini-14. OPP resources in rural areas are stretched thin enough and the last thing we need is for them to be taken off patrol for the federal government's pet gun control project.
    That's very nice, so how far do we let this pick your law enforcement go. If Manitoba decides tomorrow that they will not enforce any anti gambling laws or Newfoundland decides that fishery laws do not apply, we have a free for all.

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    Alberta read between the lines we won’t be collecting gun till you provide us with more money $$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    That's very nice, so how far do we let this pick your law enforcement go. If Manitoba decides tomorrow that they will not enforce any anti gambling laws or Newfoundland decides that fishery laws do not apply, we have a free for all.
    It's not about picking and choosing which law to enforce. It's about the police being commandeered to be a cataloging and pick-up service for the federal government. If the federal government wants to confiscate "assault" rifles it should staff and fund the initiative without diverting local and provincial police resources from more important responsibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by js4fn View Post
    Alberta read between the lines we won’t be collecting gun till you provide us with more money $$$$
    Well it seems clear that their proposed Sovereignty Act leads them to actually want their own police service, problem is that the politicians are out of step with even rural Albertan's on that issue. Here is the Justice Minister explaining his position.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpnAomOviOY

    Here is Jason Kenney explaining the dangers of such an act, destruction of Rule of Law and turning Alberta into a BANANA REPUBLIC land locked and would also be at the whim's of a neighbouring Province should they go down the same Sovereignty road.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P0b0aJYfrk


    So what would real costs even if they could pull this off

    https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...l-police-force
    Last edited by Gilroy; September 30th, 2022 at 10:29 AM.

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