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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    I have another one for you. This should clear up the whole issue.


    "Murray Smith, a technical specialist for the RCMP’s Canadian firearms program, explained the list is not an exhaustive one, as sections of the criminal code already prohibit firearms — whether on the list or not — of certain characteristics, like being fully automatic or a sawed-off barrel.

    When asked by committee member Taleeb Noormohamed if, for example, the inclusion of the Ruger No. 1 rifle meant all Ruger 1s were prohibited, Smith said only those rifles chambered for calibres capable of producing muzzle energy greater than 10,000 joules.

    “Other Ruger No. 1 rifles, which are chambered for different cables that do not produce that level of energy will remain in the existing category, which broadly speaking, is non-restricted,” Smith said"


    https://nationalpost.com/news/commit...endent-experts
    Similar to the Ruger 1s, I have been saving for a Mark V Deluxe maybe continue to save for a Lasermark.


    Im thankful I hadn't purchased already. The lists I have seen speak nothing to calibre only brand and model.

    This whole thing is a mess!

    Spend the time and money on the border and enforcement in the cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chesapeake View Post
    Similar to the Ruger 1s, I have been saving for a Mark V Deluxe maybe continue to save for a Lasermark.


    Im thankful I hadn't purchased already. The lists I have seen speak nothing to calibre only brand and model.

    This whole thing is a mess!

    Spend the time and money on the border and enforcement in the cities.

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    The whole thing is a mess because somebody decided to make Murray Smith GOD.

    Why is this guy deciding what comes and goes, they definitely need to get back to the drawing board or just leave things alone.

    I wonder if Justine realises that if the Conservatives get back into power especially with a majority ALL THIS WILL GET REVERSED. Everybody will still have their guns, as there in not the police resources to find these guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    The whole thing is a mess because somebody decided to make Murray Smith GOD.

    Why is this guy deciding what comes and goes, they definitely need to get back to the drawing board or just leave things alone.

    I wonder if Justine realises that if the Conservatives get back into power especially with a majority ALL THIS WILL GET REVERSED. Everybody will still have their guns, as there in not the police resources to find these guns.
    You know when Harper finally got a majority government, I thought what you say might be the case, but instead of repealing the liberal 'Firearm Act.' His government merely added a few modifications . So don't expect that anything is likely to change much, with a change in government. The only radicals out there appear to be the CPP, that is if Max can be trusted, which I highly doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun Nut View Post
    You know when Harper finally got a majority government, I thought what you say might be the case, but instead of repealing the liberal 'Firearm Act.' His government merely added a few modifications . So don't expect that anything is likely to change much, with a change in government. The only radicals out there appear to be the CPP, that is if Max can be trusted, which I highly doubt.

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    The disbanding of the long gun registry was more than a "modification." By doing so Harper ended Liberal fantasies of civilian disarmament. If they can't find them and don't know who has them then they can't take them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    The disbanding of the long gun registry was more than a "modification." By doing so Harper ended Liberal fantasies of civilian disarmament. If they can't find them and don't know who has them then they can't take them.
    That's only if you believe that registry was actually deleted...
    According to standard government data retention policies data is kept for 7 years, so those databases are still around. Won't be surprised, if they resurface just when moment is right

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbiehunter View Post
    That's only if you believe that registry was actually deleted...
    According to standard government data retention policies data is kept for 7 years, so those databases are still around. Won't be surprised, if they resurface just when moment is right

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    Even if there are illegal copies of the registry in existence the data in them is now over ten years old. Hardly enough to qualify for an investigation much less a search warrant.

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    Data was also down loaded into many databases by individual detachments where they had IT dept's. Not very hard would not take very long

    Quote Originally Posted by newbiehunter View Post
    That's only if you believe that registry was actually deleted...
    According to standard government data retention policies data is kept for 7 years, so those databases are still around. Won't be surprised, if they resurface just when moment is right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    Even if there are illegal copies of the registry in existence the data in them is now over ten years old. Hardly enough to qualify for an investigation much less a search warrant.
    Well a funny paragraph appears at section 16 of the affidavit


    "Notice to the public about the Regulation
    16. Between May 22 to June 5, 2020, a generic one-page information sheet titled,
    “Announcement of a Firearms Prohibition” was mailed to 2.2 million individuals with a
    valid firearms license. The information sheet provided information about the changes that
    came about as a result of the Regulation, and where license holders could obtain more
    information. Owners of firearms that were classified as restricted prior to May 1 2020,
    and were prohibited by the Regulation, were also provided with individualized letters
    advising them of the change.

    I do not know about you but I never received any notice in the mail?


    ANNOUNCEMENT OF A FIREARMS PROHIRITION

    On May 1, 2020, the Government of Canada
    reclassified the following firearms and
    devices as prohibited:
    • Nine (9) types of firearms by make and
    model,and their variants;
    • Firearms with a bore of 20 mm or greater,
    and those capable of discharging a
    projectile with a muzzle energy greater than
    10,000 Joules;
    • Upper receivers of M16, AR-10,AR-15 and
    M4 pattern firearms.

    WHAT THIS MEANS FOR YOU:
    1. An amnesty has been introduced which
    protects owners who were in legal
    possession of one or more of these newly
    prohibited firearms or devices on the day
    the amendments to the Classification
    Regulations came into force, May 1, 2020.
    2. The Government intends to implement
    a buy-back program and is looking at a
    range of options. More information on the
    buy-back program will be available at a
    later date.

    As the holder of a valid firearms licence,
    you are being contacted by the Canadian
    Firearms Program as you may be in
    possession of one of these firearms.

    WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS?

    WHAT YOU SHOULD
    KNOW ABOUT THESE
    FIREARMS/DEVICES:

    1. Wait for further instructions to participate in the
    buy-back program.
    2. Have your firearm deactivated by an approved
    business.
    3. Legally export your firearm, in which case
    individuals can engage businesses with the
    proper firearms privileges.

    1. Owners of newly prohibited firearms are to keep
    them securely stored in accordance with their
    previous classification.
    2. They cannot be sold or imported.
    3. They may only be transported under limited
    circumstances.
    4. They cannot be legally used for hunting unless
    allowed through the Amnesty Order.*
    5. They cannot be used for sport shooting, either at
    a range or elsewhere.

    MORE INFORMATION:
    For a list of newly prohibited firearms
    and information about the
    announcement or amnesty, go to the
    Canadian Firearms Program website:
    www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms

    *Exceptions are included under the Amnesty Order to allow for the continued

    use of the newly prohibited firearms and/or devices (if previously non-
    restricted) by individuals who hunt or trap to sustain themselves or their

    families, and by Indigenous persons exercising Aboriginal or treaty rights to
    hunt At the end of the amnesty period; all firearm owners must comply with
    the new taw.

    Canada

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    Not a single person I know has received this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilroy View Post
    Well a funny paragraph appears at section 16 of the affidavit


    "Notice to the public about the Regulation
    16. Between May 22 to June 5, 2020, a generic one-page information sheet titled,
    “Announcement of a Firearms Prohibition” was mailed to 2.2 million individuals with a
    valid firearms license. The information sheet provided information about the changes that
    came about as a result of the Regulation, and where license holders could obtain more
    information. Owners of firearms that were classified as restricted prior to May 1 2020,
    and were prohibited by the Regulation, were also provided with individualized letters
    advising them of the change.

    I do not know about you but I never received any notice in the mail?


    ANNOUNCEMENT OF A FIREARMS PROHIRITION

    On May 1, 2020, the Government of Canada
    reclassified the following firearms and
    devices as prohibited:
    • Nine (9) types of firearms by make and
    model,and their variants;
    • Firearms with a bore of 20 mm or greater,
    and those capable of discharging a
    projectile with a muzzle energy greater than
    10,000 Joules;
    • Upper receivers of M16, AR-10,AR-15 and
    M4 pattern firearms.

    WHAT THIS MEANS FOR YOU:
    1. An amnesty has been introduced which
    protects owners who were in legal
    possession of one or more of these newly
    prohibited firearms or devices on the day
    the amendments to the Classification
    Regulations came into force, May 1, 2020.
    2. The Government intends to implement
    a buy-back program and is looking at a
    range of options. More information on the
    buy-back program will be available at a
    later date.

    As the holder of a valid firearms licence,
    you are being contacted by the Canadian
    Firearms Program as you may be in
    possession of one of these firearms.

    WHAT ARE YOUR OPTIONS?

    WHAT YOU SHOULD
    KNOW ABOUT THESE
    FIREARMS/DEVICES:

    1. Wait for further instructions to participate in the
    buy-back program.
    2. Have your firearm deactivated by an approved
    business.
    3. Legally export your firearm, in which case
    individuals can engage businesses with the
    proper firearms privileges.

    1. Owners of newly prohibited firearms are to keep
    them securely stored in accordance with their
    previous classification.
    2. They cannot be sold or imported.
    3. They may only be transported under limited
    circumstances.
    4. They cannot be legally used for hunting unless
    allowed through the Amnesty Order.*
    5. They cannot be used for sport shooting, either at
    a range or elsewhere.

    MORE INFORMATION:
    For a list of newly prohibited firearms
    and information about the
    announcement or amnesty, go to the
    Canadian Firearms Program website:
    www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms

    *Exceptions are included under the Amnesty Order to allow for the continued

    use of the newly prohibited firearms and/or devices (if previously non-
    restricted) by individuals who hunt or trap to sustain themselves or their

    families, and by Indigenous persons exercising Aboriginal or treaty rights to
    hunt At the end of the amnesty period; all firearm owners must comply with
    the new taw.

    Canada
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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    To some degree it would still be quite useful. I doubt many people trade, sell their guns very often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Badenoch View Post
    Even if there are illegal copies of the registry in existence the data in them is now over ten years old. Hardly enough to qualify for an investigation much less a search warrant.
    "This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member

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