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December 19th, 2022, 06:20 PM
#251

Originally Posted by
Sharon
He was 73 with a history of mental illness; if he was able to get a restricted license that speaks to the problem.
There’s no evidence to show it was a legal gun.
Edit, just noticed you said if he could get a license.
They say the only good wolf is a dead wolf, If that’s the case than I’ve reformed many a wolf.
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December 19th, 2022 06:20 PM
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December 19th, 2022, 06:33 PM
#252

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Especially with a history with the board I don't see how he would be able to keep it if police had been notified in the past problems.
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Unless I missed something, all i see is that he had legal issues with the Board. Nothing nafarious? The law can't just swoop in and take your guns because you may be involved in a court case of a civil nature?
No amount of law will prevent a person going off the deep end.
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December 19th, 2022, 07:57 PM
#253

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Unless I missed something, all i see is that he had legal issues with the Board. Nothing nafarious? The law can't just swoop in and take your guns because you may be involved in a court case of a civil nature?
No amount of law will prevent a person going off the deep end.
Agreed. Lots of legal wrangling but no threats or anything that would raise red flags
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December 19th, 2022, 08:20 PM
#254

Originally Posted by
Bushmoose
Unless I missed something, all i see is that he had legal issues with the Board. Nothing nafarious? The law can't just swoop in and take your guns because you may be involved in a court case of a civil nature?
No amount of law will prevent a person going off the deep end.
I guess it would all depend on what alterations happened in past if any treats were made they can take them. This has been going on for years with this guy
I know a couple now trying to get their guns back from a dispute with a neighbor. Apparently cops told them if they keep the guns they would drop the charges they are in court now trying to get them back lol.
The way this guy says it at 2 20 minutes in he already knew it could get bad.
The community were saddened but not surprised.
https://youtu.be/r4pHOq2pWGI
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Last edited by fishfood; December 19th, 2022 at 08:52 PM.
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December 19th, 2022, 08:49 PM
#255
I waiting to hear if the pistol was registered or not. Since they have the gun they already should know if it was registered.
I'm guessing it wasn't.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 19th, 2022, 08:57 PM
#256
Was pretty sad to see the media pushing the anti gun agenda. All they were saying at first is it was a semi- automatic gun that was used. No mention that it was a handgun.
They say the only good wolf is a dead wolf, If that’s the case than I’ve reformed many a wolf.
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December 19th, 2022, 09:16 PM
#257

Originally Posted by
hunter06
Was pretty sad to see the media pushing the anti gun agenda. All they were saying at first is it was a semi- automatic gun that was used. No mention that it was a handgun.
Nothing from the media surprises me,anymore.............absolutely nothing.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 19th, 2022, 10:02 PM
#258
https://apple.news/AzJ4SeYMVR6W18oyRTO4Dww
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December 19th, 2022, 10:13 PM
#259

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
I waiting to hear if the pistol was registered or not. Since they have the gun they already should know if it was registered.
I'm guessing it wasn't.
I think the same thing.
Also on the news they said he was known in the past for being aggressive and threatened those people on the condo board
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December 20th, 2022, 12:17 PM
#260

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
I waiting to hear if the pistol was registered or not. Since they have the gun they already should know if it was registered.
I'm guessing it wasn't.
Well that would be the better scenario for the Police as they could wash their hands of any responsibility. The gun and the guys use of it was illegal.
But last night on the news coverage several people that lived in the condo and knew the suspect stated he had a "gun permit".
So lets go with that for just now and we can probably assume he had a PAL for a restricted weapon.
If that alone is true and if it was a registered handgun then the issue really becomes a big problem.
I believe this guy probably was licensed and the gun was registered in part because The Chief of Police could not/would not answer the reporters questions about both questions.
How Come? Very simple check on CPIC on the Firearms Registry would reveal both answers.
So the main question for me ASUMING I am right about the above IS HOW WAS THIS CLEARLY MENTALLY DISTURBED MAN STILL IN POSSESSION OF SAID LICENSE AND GUN.
The Police had been to his home on SEVERAL OCCASSIONS to speak to him about complaints from other tenants about his aggressive and unruly behaviour.
Did they not ever think to check if this guy had access to a firearm.
What about the suspects relatives, could they not have done something to help this man with his mental issues.
This case screams out for this fellow to have been FLAGGED BY THE SYSTEM, but it looks like he fell right through the cracks.
Nobody made a report that generated a hit on the 24 hr a day surveillance on CPIC of a gun owner that would indicate he was a danger to himself or others?
So just another case of societal breakdown where everybody is keeping in their lane and nobody is paying attention or caring about their fellow man. The cost of this apathy is bad for society and very bad for gun owners.
264 FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK AND NOBODY RECOGNIZED THIS GUY WAS mentally ill, HIS OWN POSTED PHOTOGRAPHS CLEARLY SHOW THIS.
https://www.facebook.com/francesco.villi.963/friends
https://www.facebook.com/francesco.v...41195074042359
I wonder what his lawyer is thinking now about this recorded phone call.
Last edited by Gilroy; December 20th, 2022 at 01:04 PM.