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December 20th, 2022, 08:21 PM
#271

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Twenty dollar bet (Charity of losers choice) that the gun was not registered or they will never tell us (limit 2 months) as Gilroy said it would take a few minutes to check.
Who wants to bet against me.
Well I think I will take that bet.
I believe that the gun was registered and that this shooter had a firearms license.
Now I think if they can get away with not telling us they will try that, however I do not think they will be successful.
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December 20th, 2022 08:21 PM
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December 20th, 2022, 08:40 PM
#272
I will take the bet, so must be released in two months. That would be let's say Feb 20, 2023 by Noon.
Agreed?
By the way up front if I lose I will donate to the Canadian Diabetes Association (I'm Diabetic)

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Well I think I will take that bet.
I believe that the gun was registered and that this shooter had a firearms license.
Now I think if they can get away with not telling us they will try that, however I do not think they will be successful.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 21st, 2022, 12:50 PM
#273

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
I will take the bet, so must be released in two months. That would be let's say Feb 20, 2023 by Noon.
Agreed?
By the way up front if I lose I will donate to the Canadian Diabetes Association (I'm Diabetic)
Done.
Canadian Cancer Society for my donation. Oh course I am pretty confident I will win.
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December 21st, 2022, 05:17 PM
#274
Seems this guy has quite the history if you win then the Police will have to answer many many questions as to how he could have gotten a License.
But so far nothing is being said. 

Originally Posted by
Gilroy
Done.
Canadian Cancer Society for my donation. Oh course I am pretty confident I will win.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 21st, 2022, 07:04 PM
#275
It's a distinct possibility that the man had the gun in his possession long before there was legislation. He may have been one of thousands of people that never had a FAC, a RPAL and the gun was never registered in the system. Police would have never known unless someone reported him. From what his estranged family is saying,this guy was a real piece of work.
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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December 21st, 2022, 08:00 PM
#276
Very possible, the designation for restricted firearms did not begin until 1973 (I think). If he had the gun prior and did not report / register it there would be no record of it.

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
It's a distinct possibility that the man had the gun in his possession long before there was legislation. He may have been one of thousands of people that never had a FAC, a RPAL and the gun was never registered in the system. Police would have never known unless someone reported him. From what his estranged family is saying,this guy was a real piece of work.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member
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December 22nd, 2022, 09:46 AM
#277

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
It's a distinct possibility that the man had the gun in his possession long before there was legislation. He may have been one of thousands of people that never had a FAC, a RPAL and the gun was never registered in the system. Police would have never known unless someone reported him. From what his estranged family is saying,this guy was a real piece of work.

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Very possible, the designation for restricted firearms did not begin until 1973 (I think). If he had the gun prior and did not report / register it there would be no record of it.
Well York Chief of Police apparently stated that " we have to stop guns getting across the border", this would indicate they may have traced it back to the USA using tracking/police resources down there.
In which case the bet is looking better for GW.
Interesting that the estranged daughters have made no mention of a gun ever in his possession if he had a handgun any length of time you would think they would have known.
Last edited by Gilroy; December 22nd, 2022 at 09:50 AM.
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December 22nd, 2022, 10:04 AM
#278
I’m somewhat surprised that there hasn’t been any noise from the gun haters supporting more bans.
With all due respect to the victims and their families, hunters are fortunate that a hunting rifle wasn’t used in this tragedy.
A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport. - S. Pope
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December 22nd, 2022, 11:33 AM
#279

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Very possible, the designation for restricted firearms did not begin until 1973 (I think). If he had the gun prior and did not report / register it there would be no record of it.
Restricted designation started in 1969.
Even prior to that though permits and registration of hand guns has been a legal requirement since 1934 - they just weren't restricted.
So essentially there was a legal requirement for registration/permit for his entire life.
Last edited by Species8472; December 22nd, 2022 at 11:43 AM.
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December 22nd, 2022, 09:58 PM
#280
You could be quite right I wasn't born until 69. I am pretty sure the actual registry did not begin until 73. I do know my Grandfathers had handguns and hunted with them after the war and I do know they never had any permits and none were require in NS to buy a handgun at least until the 60's, my dad carried a handgun working for the CIBC from 69 - 73. He said that banks stopped carrying them because the requirements of registration became more expensive and it didn't seem necessary for their employees to carry them anymore (Managers generally carried them).

Originally Posted by
Species8472
Restricted designation started in 1969.
Even prior to that though permits and registration of hand guns has been a legal requirement since 1934 - they just weren't restricted.
So essentially there was a legal requirement for registration/permit for his entire life.
"This is about unenforceable registration of weapons that violates the rights of people to own firearms."—Premier Ralph Klein (Alberta)Calgary Herald, 1998 October 9 (November 1, 1942 – March 29, 2013) OFAH Member