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May 3rd, 2023, 04:59 AM
#11

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
I don't know would you still rather shovel dirt by hand or use a loader.
You still need an operator with a loader. But the floor cleaners lost a job from automatic running machines that's all mapped out to mop and clean the floors.
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May 3rd, 2023 04:59 AM
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May 3rd, 2023, 05:31 AM
#12
I'm only 40 and have worked since I was 12 with my first paper route it paid for my own lunches when I was in school. A pepperoni round sub was I think was 2 bucks back then. Was pumping gas by 16 and working full time including by the time I was 18 I'd work 100 hours a week if possible even when I made 10 bucks an hour I still cleared 1000 buck pay checks after taxes.
Now it seems people and the younger generation don't want to work. They think there is no point when the cost of living is so high. That is a problem. When you can blow your paycheck over the weekend . Takes to much of their time all they ever do is work and no time them lol.
Maybe it's the school's telling them they can do what everthey want and everyone makes this grand living. They are to triggered. The police are not even aloud to go to the school's as it could trigger some students. That's an issue. How wacked is that. The police will trigger the students just like the queens passing. Couldn't talk about because it could trigger them.
A good kick in the but would trigger them I bet lol. We are becoming softer this softness may also play a role. Hard to find good workers the last 5, 10 years. They are to involved in their feelings to work I guess.
Never of the 26 years have I had a sick day. Not even during covid times. I show up everyday and do my job. Even when u was a kid and hung over . Took over an hour to walk what is 15 minutes. Got to work an hour late and puked for 3 hours untill the boss arrived. Good thing we worked in pairs. Some lady came in cused me out why I was just sitting inside when it was busy. I instantly walked by her and barfed in the toilet . She understood lol.
Hey at least I showed lol.
That's why I have never had to worrie about a job I can work anywhere but preferably the outdoors anywhere I have worked would love me back.
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May 3rd, 2023, 06:31 AM
#13
How fitting posted 2 hours he predicts the future
50% of the jobs in America could be wiped in the next 12 to 15 years. .
I was going to mention this the other day I kinda did by saying it was just the beginning. But if this 14 million is just the first round in 5 years what's after that? We are just in the beginning stages like I said they have admitted in meetings that only a few are needed to keep things running. Only the selected highly trained will have a good a job . They said that not me lol.
It's all part of the opportunity and the transition. Read the agenda it's all there as they neglected to tell us what is really means and the cost to our lives. . Including the gun grab. Lowering speed limits to "encourage compliance" ect. It's all there
“Setting appropriate speed limits helps protect all travellers, encourage compliance, complement urbanizing land use across the road network and improve traffic operations,” an April staff report said. https://www.newmarkettoday.ca/local-...0report%20said.
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Last edited by fishfood; May 3rd, 2023 at 06:41 AM.
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May 3rd, 2023, 09:17 AM
#14
Automation has been taking over manual labour since the industrial revolution for about 250 years now - replacing manual labour with machines, much to the benefit of mankind. It's not something that a rational person would fear or rail against. Where we are seeing changes in it now is that the higher minimum wages are, the more money a company can spend on automation and still have a cash-positive outcome. It's not news - even 40 years ago we - as high-school age kids - were warned not to plan on getting through life on manual labour jobs - even to the point that entering the trades was discouraged. (Hindsight shows us that construction trades would have been a good move, but manufacturing trades - machinists for example - maybe not so good).
Don't worry about the automation - find a job that automation won't replace - and there are a lot of them. Job prospects in the past couple of decades are far better than they were in the 1970s and 1980's.
As far as the lament about floor sweepers losing their jobs to automation... well - if that was your career plan - a floor sweeper - then you deserve what you get. That may seem a bit harsh - but a career floor sweeper? Is that really a step up from a career welfare bum?
Last edited by werner.reiche; May 3rd, 2023 at 09:20 AM.
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May 3rd, 2023, 01:49 PM
#15

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Don't worry about the automation - find a job that automation won't replace - and there are a lot of them. Job prospects in the past couple of decades are far better than they were in the 1970s and 1980's.
Words to live by, I've managed a good living by following this advice given to me in high school.
Somebody always has to install and repair the machines that replace people.
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May 3rd, 2023, 02:11 PM
#16
When we discuss jobs and the economy we need to include a discussion of the total of jobs created less jobs lost, this is known as Net Jobs. At my place of business we are in a sellers market, there are more jobs available than willing workers. Here is a Net jobs report from the US:
March jobs one-month net changeThe horizontal bar chart shows job creation statistics for March 2023, broken down by sector.
Leisure + hospitality
72K
Health care + social assistance
50.8K
Government
47K
Professional + business services
39K
Transportation + warehousing
10.4K
Information
6K
Mining + logging
3K
Financial activities
−1K
Manufacturing
−1K
Construction
−9K
Retail trade
−14.6K
Chart: Gabriel Cortes / CNBC
Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Data published April 7, 2023
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May 3rd, 2023, 04:33 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
bellerivercrossbowhunter
It's easier to stay on social assistance than to actually work. lol
I go to work and am taxed to death to support social assistance programs. Maybe I should quit and go on welfare like many have done...

Not a good idea.
In Ontario , you get $850.00 a month. Rent for a one bedroom is $1800.00 + in London and it is nice to be able to eat once a day somehow. You can go to the food bank , but you have no transportation to get there.
Unless you have special support , you end up on the street. Many on the street never finished high school, have learning disabilities, mental health issues etc ,so it's very hard to get a job. They would be thrilled to have a job that would pay more than $850.00 a month.
( Have worked with special needs people for MANY years. Presently supporting a family with 2 autistic kids. )
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May 3rd, 2023, 05:30 PM
#18
You said it very well

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
Automation has been taking over manual labour since the industrial revolution for about 250 years now - replacing manual labour with machines, much to the benefit of mankind. It's not something that a rational person would fear or rail against. Where we are seeing changes in it now is that the higher minimum wages are, the more money a company can spend on automation and still have a cash-positive outcome. It's not news - even 40 years ago we - as high-school age kids - were warned not to plan on getting through life on manual labour jobs - even to the point that entering the trades was discouraged. (Hindsight shows us that construction trades would have been a good move, but manufacturing trades - machinists for example - maybe not so good).
Don't worry about the automation - find a job that automation won't replace - and there are a lot of them. Job prospects in the past couple of decades are far better than they were in the 1970s and 1980's.
As far as the lament about floor sweepers losing their jobs to automation... well - if that was your career plan - a floor sweeper - then you deserve what you get. That may seem a bit harsh - but a career floor sweeper? Is that really a step up from a career welfare bum?
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May 3rd, 2023, 07:18 PM
#19
Remember that tune in the year 2525, well it's coming sooner.
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May 4th, 2023, 05:47 AM
#20

Originally Posted by
Marker
When we discuss jobs and the economy we need to include a discussion of the total of jobs created less jobs lost, this is known as Net Jobs. At my place of business we are in a sellers market, there are more jobs available than willing workers. Here is a Net jobs report from the US:
March jobs one-month net changeThe horizontal bar chart shows job creation statistics for March 2023, broken down by sector.
Leisure + hospitality
72K
Health care + social assistance
50.8K
Government
47K
Professional + business services
39K
Transportation + warehousing
10.4K
Information
6K
Mining + logging
3K
Financial activities
−1K
Manufacturing
−1K
Construction
−9K
Retail trade
−14.6K
Chart: Gabriel Cortes / CNBC
Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Data published April 7, 2023
See all those government jobs ? Those are not beneficial for the economy they are paid by the working class.
Canada too has added more federal positions , health care and assistance workers. They are all paid by the worker's so our biggest gains in our growth are paid by taxpayers. Canada I think added 8 thousand federal positions in February our latest jobs reports is a fake positive as a great deal of new hires is not helping the economy grow they are payed by the working people.
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