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May 6th, 2023, 06:11 AM
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[QUOTE=werner.reiche;1212648]When the lack of available employees is one of the major drivers behind automation, it's a bit strange to be lamenting loss of jobs to automation.[/QUOTE
That might be one of the reasons but as it opens up the opportunity I think it's risking more job losses at the same time. I was just listening to a video about the coming job losses and numbers in 2023 and its a massive list. That's for the tightening though not ai or robotics replacement yet. They will eventually be replaced.
Didn't we just bring in a million new people hundreds of thousands should be of the working age that need jobs.

Originally Posted by
werner.reiche
The WEF - I do see that as a concern, particularly when voters elect governments who put the interests of groups like the WEF ahead of Canadians.
That's just a conspiracy lol.
But a big driver of what's coming.
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May 6th, 2023 06:11 AM
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May 6th, 2023, 08:21 AM
#32

Originally Posted by
hunter06
Many are actually lazy and rebellious and choose the life style they’re living. Most of there mental health is caused or encouraged by there rampant drug use. How do I know? Well one of my childhood friends now lives that way. If he wanted a home he could have it, but he doesn’t want to abide be the rules so he’s willing he in the mess he’s in. Yes there are some real cases of people unable to work, but that group is definitely not a majority. It used to be,(up here at least) that is you were on welfare and were physically able to work you would be put to work cutting brush in the ditches and filling potholes. Coincidentally there was less healthy people on welfare and government programs.
Some never change when those drugs are involved.

Originally Posted by
Sharon
True in some cases.
I'm very sorry your friend has not been able to move on; drug addiction is a very complicated problem as you know.
In London, welfare recipients are seen every 2 weeks to see if they are pursuing work or need to be moved to ODSP.
Wait to see what happens in Vancouver in the next 5 years. It's just turned into the new Portland and will be in a state of emergency by the time I mentioned. Wacked. They think they have problems now oh boy lol.
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May 6th, 2023, 04:38 PM
#33

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Some never change when those drugs are involved.
Wait to see what happens in Vancouver in the next 5 years. It's just turned into the new Portland and will be in a state of emergency by the time I mentioned. Wacked. They think they have problems now oh boy lol.
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The gov't keeps propagating the problem by giving them drugs and saving their sorry butts day after day. Why try to get better if you don't have to.
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May 8th, 2023, 05:28 AM
#34

Originally Posted by
Fisherman
The gov't keeps propagating the problem by giving them drugs and saving their sorry butts day after day. Why try to get better if you don't have to.
Some guy in Vancouver was selling it from a store posted 100% free of fentanyl . Heroin ,cocain, mdma, think meth and all ,no impurities or cut was also advertised.
Crazy and disgusting
YouTube sencoered some stories talking about it, the government wants to be more open about it yet you still can't discuss it lol. They could talk about the store being open but not mention what they were selling.
He did get arrested and is fighting the charges under a constitutional law of some sort. Just like they did with the other stores.
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May 9th, 2023, 06:26 AM
#35
Heard 20 big box stores are closing at least 2100 locations across the usa. Some of them have been in trouble since the pandemic.
McDonald's could close a 1000 stores in California alone as it's going to cost too much money to keep everyone unless they raise the price another 20% . This is where I see them coming back with a 90% reduction in staff . They already have them built only need a couple people to run them. Close down a few locations and biuld backup a few with 90% less staff for more profits.
Will it make the food cheaper with less workers? Nope
Imagine Canada with 65 thousands lost jobs if this one company switches to its current system. Then the others will follow they are already working on a system that could take away hundreds of thousands of our jobs. In just this 1 sector .
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Last edited by fishfood; May 9th, 2023 at 06:33 AM.
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May 9th, 2023, 04:48 PM
#36
Most stores I frequent now have mostly self check out. When people ask for wages for above what the job is worth you switch to something else. Call a spade a spade a cashiers job is / was worth 10 bucks at best.
There will always be automation and job losses and there will be new jobs. I remember when people said my job as a computer programmer it would be out sourced and it never happened in fact today there are more programming jobs then 20 years ago.
Big box stores come and go. I bet some are hurting because of Amazon. Canadian Tire loss some of my business to amazon.

Originally Posted by
fishfood
Heard 20 big box stores are closing at least 2100 locations across the usa. Some of them have been in trouble since the pandemic.
McDonald's could close a 1000 stores in California alone as it's going to cost too much money to keep everyone unless they raise the price another 20% . This is where I see them coming back with a 90% reduction in staff . They already have them built only need a couple people to run them. Close down a few locations and biuld backup a few with 90% less staff for more profits.
Will it make the food cheaper with less workers? Nope
Imagine Canada with 65 thousands lost jobs if this one company switches to its current system. Then the others will follow they are already working on a system that could take away hundreds of thousands of our jobs. In just this 1 sector .
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May 9th, 2023, 05:59 PM
#37

Originally Posted by
greatwhite
Most stores I frequent now have mostly self check out. When people ask for wages for above what the job is worth you switch to something else. Call a spade a spade a cashiers job is / was worth 10 bucks at best.
There will always be automation and job losses and there will be new jobs. I remember when people said my job as a computer programmer it would be out sourced and it never happened in fact today there are more programming jobs then 20 years ago.
Big box stores come and go. I bet some are hurting because of Amazon. Canadian Tire loss some of my business to amazon.
I try to stay away from there as I feel I buy from there I am eventually taking someone's job away. However they probably have our address programed into their daily routes lol.
Since the ai and robotics have teamed up and are working together they are talking about robots working as doctors as they would make less medical mistakes. They talked about manufacturing and construction and how we will be using them to biuld skyscrapers. With the chatgpt they will learn with experience watching and learning and downloading the data to its brain. Bill gates said there is no reason for a secretary anymore with the use of the chatgpt. Another guy is letting it take over his finances and its figured out where to save money.
I get that were advancing but they plan on eliminating many jobs in the next 50 years. What are we going to do ? They say this and we see it playing out.
I know it's just a conspiracy but the people working with government's want like a 75% reduction and transformation that's all.
This 14 million is just the beginning to this new area ,even the bank of Canada yesterday was talking about a central bank maybe in 5 years we could loose our banking jobs an 80% reduction in staff it would be all digital. Goodbye accountants the government wants to do our taxes. There go's more jobs lol.
The point is there are consequences with this transition and the government's have already said this. But have failed the whole truth. But things are good think about 3rd of home owners have extended thier mortgage to over 30 years. Paying the minimum as the price goes up and the value goes down they sure got our backs while planning on a cashless workless society lol.
They have to break it before it gets better "many will suffer" they said . I think many are suffering but they don't care whole lot more job losses are coming and not even from ai or robotics side.
Let's see how most people are doing in the next 2 years. They just said things are going to get alot worse. How much more can the people handle? The usa government is even trying to stay out of default
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Last edited by fishfood; May 9th, 2023 at 06:03 PM.
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May 9th, 2023, 07:07 PM
#38
To be honest I think a lot of these changes are moot, there will always be businesses taking over the latest trend and their inefficiencies will always distribute money to smaller businesses and people who know how to capitalize on the dollars they step over. I work for a company that grew 3 times the size in 5 years and the inefficiencies have brought on so many sub contractors it's unbelievable as well as a swollen likely 6 times amount of "management". The machine will continue to run likely at least until I'm in the dirt, this I'm confident in.
One thing somebody told me at a young age has always come to fruition.
For every winner in this world, there is a loser. You decide which one you are.
Last edited by dean.f; May 9th, 2023 at 07:09 PM.
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May 9th, 2023, 07:56 PM
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Considering how poor these cashiers are in performing their job (they take forever) I can do it much faster.
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May 10th, 2023, 06:45 AM
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A good break down of the report.
It's worth noting a few things in the report we see on our government of Canada agenda already
https://youtu.be/6s5ytdy4CYc
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