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    Default Dog train-and-trail areas proposed

    https://oodmag.com/dog-train-and-trial-areas-proposed/

    A proposal to potentially allow new dog train-and-trial areas is open for comment on the Environmental Registry of Ontario (ERO) until May 18.
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    OP: The article refers to trialing as opposed to trailing (i before the a), small spelling difference but they refer to different things.
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    Sounds like progress to me.... good plan. Makes me smile though , as in the 50s - 70s we trained beagles that way with no "rules and regulations".

    https://ero.ontario.ca/notice/019-3685
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    In these times, rabbit hunters rely on train and trial areas as a safe and legal place to train their beagles for rabbit hunting. There are people in Ontario who would love nothing better than to see another form of hunting come to an end and after their done with beaglers, they will move on to the next group of legal hunters.

    I should add, Please respond to the ero in a positive way to help preserve hunting in Ontario.
    Last edited by swampsinger; May 14th, 2023 at 06:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marker View Post
    OP: The article refers to trialing as opposed to trailing (i before the a), small spelling difference but they refer to different things.
    In this context Trial equates to a field trial. It is usual practice for a Beagle club to host 2 field trials a year for total of four days out of the year. The purpose of the trials is evaluate beagles as to their suitability as hunting dogs. This provides valuable information to breeders and their bloodlines for the purpose of improving and maintaining the Beagle as a useful hunting breed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharon View Post
    Sounds like progress to me.... good plan. Makes me smile though , as in the 50s - 70s we trained beagles that way with no "rules and regulations".

    https://ero.ontario.ca/notice/019-3685
    Yes, Sharon those were simpler times. This is a copy of the letter sent to a provincial parliamentary committee, it illustrates some problems we are dealing with today.

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    Gee. What a disappointment that must have been in 2013.
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    As hunters,we all understand the purpose of train and trial areas and the concepts of using hunting dogs. The problem is the public does NOT. This subject can and will be "spun" to the public as barbaric and cruel. The optics of this really,really sux and the exploitation by the media and animal rights groups will be epic. I'm afraid this one will come back to bite us.
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    Very true. I've already some "Letters to the Editor" in my local newspaper speaking out against this "cruel and barbaric" practice.
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    I would have to disagree with these common sense suggestions made by folks like CONSERVATION OFFICERS. Hunting dogs are not born knowing their craft and a safe place to teach and refine those skills are needed. Once you start banning those what's next bird hunting preserves because pheasant are caged to crowded. Heck might as well ban hunting altogether as shooting a living creature has to be cruel. Why stop there fishing got to go stick a hook in a fish just to drag it around than release it pure for enjoyment come on that's the definition for cruelty.
    Yes one has to be respectful of the game but in the end I do believe animals are that and to anthropomorphize them is not in the best interest. I believe with nonsensical comments they should ignore it and just carry on.
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