The Environmentalist's Catch-22

[trimmer21]

There are many things in life that are "HARD TO PROVE" but I just have to go outside every day or read and watch the terrible information available on droughts, floods , fires etc. to know something is terribly wrong. I for one am afraid for future generations. Something is happening and we have to figure it out and not deny it. My take on something bad happening.
rodmcd

Don't be so eager to drink the "cool aid". Examining where the money comes from and where it goes explains a lot about the "environmental" business........ as in giving everyone the "business".

[gbk]

There are many things in life that are "HARD TO PROVE" but I just have to go outside every day or read and watch the terrible information available on droughts, floods , fires etc. to know something is terribly wrong. I for one am afraid for future generations. Something is happening and we have to figure it out and not deny it. My take on something bad happening.
rodmcd

Read the book- A Cultural History of Climate by Wolfgang Behringer,
28 C$ on Amazon.
No politics,no brainwashing,no theories and no propaganda.

Just simple facts from the past.

Read it-THEN make conclusions.

[fishfood]

We have to stop blaming every storm on climate change. Every disaster is used as a climate scheme

As Trudeau spouts off and says climate change is real that we cannot deny it as we watch houses burn from a forest fire.

Truth is its been happening for hundreds of years. I was censored again on YouTube for quotes and the link to the Canadian encyclopedia of fire disasters. https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia....fire-disasters

If we are so inclined to tackle the climate crisis why we still shipping coal to China? We bark about them using it but have no problem shipping it to them.


How about they pipe up and tell us the real agenda and what it means .

Driving less is posted on the wef as a way to lower the standard of living. A way to tackle the climate crisis. Also talks about degrowth without messing up the gdp governments are proud we are having less children.

China is concerned about future substanable developments they just opened a new facility in the cultured meats. In case you missed it or just our media missing it like all naritives. But they plan on industrialization and commercialization it by 2025 in just 2 years as they work with the usa to get it into the market. The usa is the second country to legalize and bring in the lab grown meats. https://english.alarabiya.net/featur...eyes-US-market

https://www.reuters.com/business/chi...et-2023-08-10/

As we target the farmers tax the cows close down farms in the name of climate change they already have an alternative plan for the people. They are literally building them just next door . Italy just banned synthetic meats as a way to preserve their heritage. No news on that either lol. Wonder why.



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[fishfood]

On a side note our government admitted it will use what it learned from the pandemic to tackle the climate crisis.
We all know how that turned out. What's next mandatory climate qr codes. Oh yeah that's the digital part they also don't want to talk about.



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[rodmcd]

Well, never been accused of being a "Cool Aid" drinker in all my 74 years and I certainly do not have to buy a book before I form an opinion although if you are willing to send me your copy I will certainly take a look. I have been an avid bird photographer and fisherperson (politically correct I hope?) for too many years to count. I watch and do see changes happening out there that worry me. Maybe some people think that 70+ years is too short a span to see change. That is fine but I personally think that it is long enough. I'm going to keep watching as long as I can and hope for our future generations.

[racer55]

Well, never been accused of being a "Cool Aid" drinker in all my 74 years and I certainly do not have to buy a book before I form an opinion although if you are willing to send me your copy I will certainly take a look. I have been an avid bird photographer and fisherperson (politically correct I hope?) for too many years to count. I watch and do see changes happening out there that worry me. Maybe some people think that 70+ years is too short a span to see change. That is fine but I personally think that it is long enough. I'm going to keep watching as long as I can and hope for our future generations.

Please do keep observing, I would never discourage that.
I just ask that you get climate science from climatologists and not zoologists like David Suzuki or government and media.

[rodmcd]

On a side note and please take with humor intended. I have had an AVID DILIKE for David Suzuki for my entire life. I am also not a big fan of a lot of the current governments or most media outlets. I do like to form my opinions on what I see and experience when I am out and about.

[racer55]

On a side note and please take with humor intended. I have had an AVID DILIKE for David Suzuki for my entire life. I am also not a big fan of a lot of the current governments or most media outlets. I do like to form my opinions on what I see and experience when I am out and about.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I won't fault you for that.
I hope that everyone makes informed opinions at least.

I am fond of people who show their work and the reasons why they arrived at their position-on youtube a place I have found that does that very thing is a channel called CDN.

[gbk]

Well, never been accused of being a "Cool Aid" drinker in all my 74 years and I certainly do not have to buy a book before I form an opinion although if you are willing to send me your copy I will certainly take a look. I have been an avid bird photographer and fisherperson (politically correct I hope?) for too many years to count. I watch and do see changes happening out there that worry me. Maybe some people think that 70+ years is too short a span to see change. That is fine but I personally think that it is long enough. I'm going to keep watching as long as I can and hope for our future generations.

" or read and watch the terrible information available on droughts, floods , fires etc. to know something is terribly wrong. "-see post #19

rodmcd- if you would like to read something else then the above mentioned information on droughts ,floods and fire-as mentioned above,i offered to read some"not so terrible information"in the book mentioned.

Just a different source of them infromations - however i have no intention to send the book.It is your choice if you buy it or not.cheers

[fishfood]

Well, never been accused of being a "Cool Aid" drinker in all my 74 years and I certainly do not have to buy a book before I form an opinion although if you are willing to send me your copy I will certainly take a look. I have been an avid bird photographer and fisherperson (politically correct I hope?) for too many years to count. I watch and do see changes happening out there that worry me. Maybe some people think that 70+ years is too short a span to see change. That is fine but I personally think that it is long enough. I'm going to keep watching as long as I can and hope for our future generations.

The bird population decline is not just attributed from climate change, there are many factors to the declined populations.

Keep up the watching

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