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[dean.f]

Question: How are they to shoot out of. My first thoughts are without a stable shooting rest and the possibility of wind blowing you around while sitting in it, would be not the best?
Just a question

They are typically used for bow hunting (vertical bow). I'm not sure if anybody uses them with a gun much.

[newbiehunter]

They are typically used for bow hunting (vertical bow). I'm not sure if anybody uses them with a gun much.

Crossbow and rifle.
Off course, solid rest is always better, however things could be fashioned to add stability..
Some folks attach a loop to use as for rest rifle. Me personally, just try to get a position where at least 1 elbow is against the bridge or tree trunk..

If stable position is very important, jx3 might be a good fit (and it's super comfy too, just kind heavy to carry in)

[DanE]

Question: How are they to shoot out of. My first thoughts are without a stable shooting rest and the possibility of wind blowing you around while sitting in it, would be not the best?
Just a question

I don't find them effecting accuracy at all with a crossbow or gun. especially when you are firmly anchored in a triangle between your feet and a properly adjusted tether. but they do excel with a vertical bow

[Marker]

hey then again i am the type of guy to start to look into things and then having to try it out, ive been afraid of heights since a kid, with my new job im slowly overcoming that so who knows you might see me post some questions about them next year LOL

I suggest you take a rope course, some type of working at heights (AKA feet off the ground), or arborist course. After you learn to trust your knots you will feel safer up a tree than on the ground. Please do not rely on what you see the saddle hunters on u-tube do for safety, there are too many guys using the wrong knots and not backing up their retention system. There are other U tubers who are fire fighters, SAR, or arborists who go over retention systems.

Always back up your system with two rention devices, rope (with the correct knots) and or mechanical and you will be good to go as high as you want.

[Bowjob]

I suggest you take a rope course, some type of working at heights (AKA feet off the ground), or arborist course. After you learn to trust your knots you will feel safer up a tree than on the ground. Please do not rely on what you see the saddle hunters on u-tube do for safety, there are too many guys using the wrong knots and not backing up their retention system. There are other U tubers who are fire fighters, SAR, or arborists who go over retention systems.

Always back up your system with two rention devices, rope (with the correct knots) and or mechanical and you will be good to go as high as you want.

working at heights doesnt really teach you that much about that stuff. just recently had to take that class for work. only thing they really teach you is how to put on a harness and what fall protection tether to use and when. always have your self anchored off thats about it. nothing to do with knots kinda a shame.

[Marker]

working at heights doesnt really teach you that much about that stuff. just recently had to take that class for work. only thing they really teach you is how to put on a harness and what fall protection tether to use and when. always have your self anchored off thats about it. nothing to do with knots kinda a shame.

Understood, I have friend who took a course in working at heights and he described to me all the rope work and knots he used so I suspect his course was more advanced as he was working on welding apartment building frames. You could try looking into a 'High Angle Rope Rescue' course, this is essentially the same stuff the fire fighters use. I dont know of any which are open to civilians in Canada, I had to drive to the US to get on a course, there are more available options down there with some over a weekend which are designed for the 'unpaid professional'.

Alternately you can watch some High Angle Rescue videos on U Tube and follow the recomndations, you may also need to look at some knot tying videos as the rescue courses usually require a basic knowledge of knots. There are only two knots you need, the figure eight and the prussic, learn these knots and how to apply them and you will be OK.

Here is an example of my mechanical retention device backed up by a prussic.

Prussic.jpg

[trimmer21]

I tried that style a few years ago using a buddy's Hydro climbing gear that worked fairly well. After a couple of hours,though,my arse and back were aching and my legs were so sore I could hardly walk the next day. Younger hunters should do well with it,but,us older guys.......

[Bowjob]

Understood, I have friend who took a course in working at heights and he described to me all the rope work and knots he used so I suspect his course was more advanced as he was working on welding apartment building frames. You could try looking into a 'High Angle Rope Rescue' course, this is essentially the same stuff the fire fighters use. I dont know of any which are open to civilians in Canada, I had to drive to the US to get on a course, there are more available options down there with some over a weekend which are designed for the 'unpaid professional'.

Alternately you can watch some High Angle Rescue videos on U Tube and follow the recomndations, you may also need to look at some knot tying videos as the rescue courses usually require a basic knowledge of knots. There are only two knots you need, the figure eight and the prussic, learn these knots and how to apply them and you will be OK.

Here is an example of my mechanical retention device backed up by a prussic.

Prussic.jpg

fair enough, im sure theyres some course here you can find that goes through this type of stuff though.

[Marker]

fair enough, im sure theyres some course here you can find that goes through this type of stuff though.

You can try finding one, when I was doing the courses about 10 years ago the very few that had openings for civilians got booked up within a matter of minutes. Every guy looking to be a firefighter wanted to take the course(s) to put on their resume. I took a few days off work and drove to Virginia and Michigan for a few weekend courses, I would highly recomend that option if you want to progress your career or just to gain some knowledge.

To start with, watching Utube videos is free.

[dean.f]

As far as YouTube learning, I suggest checking out arborist channels there are plenty and they are more safety oriented than just the average guy making saddle how to videos. Lots of stuff to learn about rope types and knots if you are interested.