When will they ever learn

[Sam Menard]

Honestly some people believe that “If it’s dangerous there would be a sign saying so”.

[Badenoch]

In less politically correct times the old saying was, "The ice is thick enough to fish a week after the first (minority group) goes through."

[Ata83]

ohhh come on guys ... all these negative comments from a bunch of hunters and fishermen and women ?!

We all do take risks when hunting or fishing, so these comments from us is kinda shocking ! it can happen to any of us.

We do not know if he had appropriate tools and if he took appropriate steps to check.

[Fisherman]

ohhh come on guys ... all these negative comments from a bunch of hunters and fishermen and women ?!

We all do take risks when hunting or fishing, so these comments from us is kinda shocking ! it can happen to any of us.

We do not know if he had appropriate tools and if he took appropriate steps to check.

Negative comments, how about reality and that some people are just plain missing common sense.

[finsfurfeathers]

ohhh come on guys ... all these negative comments from a bunch of hunters and fishermen and women ?!

We all do take risks when hunting or fishing, so these comments from us is kinda shocking ! it can happen to any of us.

We do not know if he had appropriate tools and if he took appropriate steps to check.

There's taking risk and then there is just plain stupidity. Almost like trying to walk across the 401 during rush hour or J walking when there is no traffic.

[fishfood]

In less politically correct times the old saying was, "The ice is thick enough to fish a week after the first (minority group) goes through."

That's a good one.

Myself I like to check with a spud, any will work my favorite one is about 40 pounds with a point. Thing will go through 4 inches or more of white ice In a single hit. After 6 inches the spud stays at home.

The problem is once people start seeing someone out there, some just assume it's safe. When in reality we are always checking each step as we go along. I've had people basically crap their pants when I told a guy not to walk on the snow patches. There was less than 2 inch under the patches the bigger the drift the less it was. I've seen Myself posted before being called crazy when the truth is they had no idea lol.

It takes a long time to spud out safely sometimes I do the recon work the evening before lol.



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[Ata83]

Negative comments, how about reality and that some people are just plain missing common sense.

yea there are alot of those ppl out there. I dont disagree ... BUT ...
all of us here push the boundaries, be it climbing trees, wading through unknown waters and marshlands, Canoeing on lake ontario in december [ok this one wasnt too smart lol I learned the hard way], and testing/spudding newly frozen waters, and many many more ....
and most of us have to learn these things by experience or .... not all of us are born info outdoorsy families that we can learn these from, and there is only so much youtube can teach us.

Now with all the stuff done right, things can still go wrong. look how many pictures of downed trees we see yearly, with a ladder stand on it. any of us could be at the stand on that time and if it comes down on us, ppl reading the story will say look how dump ppl are ... climbing tree to catch a deer [none hunter termslol]

Im just saying even with all the safety stuff done, things can still go wrong and we shouldnt jump to the conclusion. Specially us, that put ourselves in such situations all the time.

[finsfurfeathers]

It takes a long time to spud out safely sometimes I do the recon work the evening before lol.
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For me that much work/caution to catch a few perch is a risk not worth it. Fishing should be relatively stress and carefree.

[Fenelon]

I remember being stupid and young once, and decided to walk 1.5km offshore for early perch at Virginia Beach on Simcoe. Myself and two friends all had floater suits, ice picks, and carried spuds. The ice was a solid 2.5 inches and again, we were young and stupid. We spread out about 200 feet from each other and drilled out holes. The perch action was fantastic, with lots of big females. Then we stared in disbelief as we saw a full size half ton truck driving across the ice towards Georgina Island at about 40mph. I remember thinking OMG then thinking that I was seeing a mirage, as a black "shadow" appeared to be preceding the truck that was about a kilometer in the distance. I then realized that what I was seeing was a sound shockwave from the truck crossing the thin ice, and the the ice wave was lifting about 300 feet in front of the truck. The wave hit me first, lifting me about 18 inches in the air and dumping me on my side. I yelled at my friend as I fell and watched it continue over to him. When it hit him I saw him lift even higher than I had, then the ice broke and he went through. He lost some of his gear, but managed to pick his way out and roll onto solid ice. We quickly regrouped, packed up, and got the hell back on to shore. I still can't believe the truck made it to the island. I learned something else that day. Regardless of what the human physiology texts say is impossible, it is actually possible for a piece of stool to abruptly leave the anus, touch the fabric of your underwear, then coyly pop back into your body. I checked the seat of my floater suit as soon as we hit shore. There was nothing. It was like I had been visited by a ghost............45 years later and I still haven't come to terms with this experience.

[DanE]

I urge you guys to look at the pictures very closely
I'm local to the area and actually live on the lake. you are being dooped by what actually happened and the story (like most in the media) is extremely misleading