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    One thing seems very certain in my opinion. The world is becoming increasingly polarized. This will probably lead to more conflict. Ones opinion versus another and somewhere in the middle lies the truth. If no one is willing to nudge closer to the middle, there will be no compromise. Perhaps that is best. Only when something is razed to the ground can it rebuilt and fashioned in a better way.

    At least here we can have civilized conversations.

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    It will be a few years until Russia has its military rebuilt, and after that we are headed for a land war between NATO and Russia. Stay tuned
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    I can remember reading somewhere it's about 60-70 years between major conflicts, unfortunately we are overdue for the balloon to go up.

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    Still could get messy the British are threatening boots on the ground that would be nato members on the ground. That would escalate things a bit more not de escalate it like they say. Even Canada could send troops .

    Trumps latest blast on Zelensky was comical. The mineral deal seems like it will go through that will keep the funding going probably its a win now for the Americans not Ukrainians. But what else would we expect the same outcomes every time.

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    Is it just me or does Trumps administration seem very pro Russian?
    I'm not seeing them refer to Putin or his regime in any negative way. Seems like a tectonic shift in US foreign policy from years past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbuff View Post
    Is it just me or does Trumps administration seem very pro Russian?
    I'm not seeing them refer to Putin or his regime in any negative way. Seems like a tectonic shift in US foreign policy from years past.
    I don’t see it that way. We will have to wait (and people don’t like doing that) to see what the end result is. Some of the problems are so screwed up by Biden that it is going to take a long time to fix.

    I guess Trump is smart enough not to insult the person he is going to make a deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glen View Post

    I guess Trump is smart enough not to insult the person he is going to make a deal with.
    Guess you missed what he said about Zelensky while trying to make a deal for Ukrainian's resources. Guys playing both sides only for his best interest. I'm sure he couldn't care less about either side
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    Well he’s working for the people of the USA so I hope he does what’s best for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birdbuff View Post
    Is it just me or does Trumps administration seem very pro Russian?
    I'm not seeing them refer to Putin or his regime in any negative way. Seems like a tectonic shift in US foreign policy from years past.
    It's hard to say some have only pushed for 1 outcome while leaving Russia out of the negotiating. Seems to me that if you have wanted the war to end your a putin lover or pro Russia. If you talked the truth about the battle field again your a putin lover because Ukraine is winning and will win they said.

    There is only one way and that is negotiating with Russia yet anyone that wants talks to them is what I mentioned called pro Russian or a putin lover or putin puppets after we called our western leaders the same they just toss it on Mr putin.

    Wasn't there some made up stories about putin and trump and interfaces years ago? They even suggested that the Russians could be part of the trucker convoy hahaha.

    We don't have to talk to Russia and the war continues yet if we talk to them about ending it then he is a putin lover. Pro Russian supporters cuz the American president wants to end the war. How does he win ?

    I said years ago that Russia will need to part of the negotiating process like it or not. It's the only way to end it or defeat Russia. Those are the opinions. You think if the war drags on the Ukrainians can take back what has been lost ? Not a chance. The hopes were little to begin with now here we are 3 years later.

    To much propaganda to determine where trump sits currently. We don't even have a proper government who are we to say anything let alone push more vehicles into blazes. We don't want an end we want to destroy Russia opps I mean Ukraine lol.

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    Like the internet dress thing years ago, you either see gold and white...or black and blue. Everyone has their perspectives.

    I just find it peculiar that he wants to end the war on Russias terms. Not much on Russian concessions being mentioned by the trump administration. Many insults and demands and blame against the Ukrainian side. I mean to say, that it comes off bizarrely pro Russian.

    Quite the change in foreign policy since 1945. Quite literally going against the grain of the American norm.

    Negotiation is most likely the only way to resolve this. But surely even a negotiation shouldn't begin without testing the waters on where everyone stands. And even so, should concessions be made willingly and publicly prior to any real talks.

    I don't see much propaganda against the trump administration. There's not much need. One can simply just listen to him and his followers. They say enough about the situation, maybe too much.

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