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June 7th, 2019, 03:12 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
ninepointer
That's the issue with local deer feeding associations that still exist. "Let me get this straight... you want ME to donate MY money so that some guy can attract deer to HIS back 40?!"
Not quite the same. Deer will travel miles to winter in a yard. Basically migrate every winter. I don’t know if quail migrate to winter range? Many birds do though.
I’m suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog who doesn't like a person.
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June 7th, 2019 03:12 PM
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June 9th, 2019, 06:02 PM
#12

Originally Posted by
fishhawk
No money for habitat work, only wild population of Bobwhite’s left in Ontario that I know of is on Walpole island. Now if we ever did get the money together for land and habitat work, those Walpole birds would make perfect candidates for transfer stockings. Wishful thinking on my part. In reality the only thing the government has done so far is put them on the protected species list. About as much as you’d expect from the Ontario government with the dept and cutbacks going on. Maybe one day.
It was the Feds that put them on the endangered species list! After too many years of Liberal extravagant spending we have a provincial government reeling in the expenses in an attempt to balance a budget. MNR supplies luxury in fishing and hunting so no monies forth coming.
"Without Proper Management Wild Life Becomes Your Next Hood Ornament"
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June 10th, 2019, 08:37 PM
#13
What about all the ofah affiliated clubs.i guess if it's not deer or turkeys,their is no interest.Up here the interest is in moose and fish stocking.
Pennsylvania spends hundreds of thousands on pheasant release which everyone knows is strictly a put and take proposition. We need to keep our hunting license dollars in hunting.Again I mention all these ofah affiliated clubs who collectively have the money to do it.We need our voice,the ofah to petition the government.
I know its put and take but put and take pheasants,huns,and quail will keep pressure off the few wild birds we have left and provide days afield.
Not many townships release pheasant anymore and I know of release quail, it's a shame.
Time to face the reality,put and take is the way of the future ,its been in Europe for a while and is the reason the UK which is not large compared to Ont shoots 10 million pheasants a year.
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June 11th, 2019, 05:17 PM
#14
The annual harvest of South Dakota is about 828,000 pheasants a year and those are not all natural birds by any means, but it is "THE" go to pheasant mecca. This means income for Lodging, food, fuel and all other tourist type industries. Ontario refuses to use hunting resources to any extent to generate revenue in a failing manufacturing environment. Bob White Quail and Hungarian partridge once had huntable populations in Ontario. Simply putting them on the endangered species list does nothing if you don't work at enhancing the population with better habitat and environmental studies.
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May 1st, 2025, 10:02 AM
#15
Has too much time on their hands
I know, this is an old thread, but I used to follow Ontario's quail situation, and the Provincial and Federal government's excruciatingly slow responses to their legal obligations to advance the recovery of this Endangered Species. I recently stumbled upon this...
Ontario Government Northern Bobwhite Response Statement:
https://www.ontario.ca/page/northern...20connectivity.
So in 2020... 7 years after the last known Northern Bobwhite Quail in Ontario was documented on Walpole Island in 2013, the Province finally fulfilled its obligation by laying out in vague terms what should be done to save the quail. Words, nothing but words. But a box has been checked.
I give up.
"What calm deer hunter's heart has not skipped a beat when the stillness of a cold November morning is broken by the echoes of hounds tonguing yonder?" -Anonymous-
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May 2nd, 2025, 07:05 AM
#16
Frustrating, but that is how our paid employees for the government work.... (Trump may be on to something in the USA) .. That said, I heard of a fellow in the Niagara Peninsula that was raising Bob White quail with the MNR monitoring it for a release program. There was some talk about a potential release at Rock Point provincial park some years ago being planned. Natures Conservatories who controls many parcels in Norfolk do not allow the non native species on their properties. They remove non native trees, invasive species, and plant prairie grasses which are excellent habitant for such birds that are native.. I would believe that any reintroduction of the Bob White could possible make in Natures Conservatories properties as they are extensive in size.
"Without Proper Management Wild Life Becomes Your Next Hood Ornament"