The Syndicate

[JBen]

Things were different 100 years ago. Today that wouldn't happen, but by the same token that shouldn't invalidate a deal that was concluded 120 or 150 years ago.

Boozy if I recall correctly theres a peice of the St Clair river thats the same. The land owner has deeded rights (for what ever reason) that extend out into the river. It may as well be fenced off from what I've been told and theres been so much trouble in the past, the cops do repsond to calls.. So with regards to "navigable" the St Clair (which gets tankers up it) trumps the bog by a long shot.

As I said, the bog isn't the only place. One day the land will change hands and when the deed is transferred the "right" to the bed goes "poof"...Thats my understanding atleast.

[boozyleroux]

That's what I meant when I said 'it is what it is'.

[cantcatchacold]

I was talking about something like this on sat night, a friend had a fisherman charged with trespassing a few years ago, he asked the guy to leave and was told to f off. When the cop arrived the landowner showed his deed and yes he does own the land under the water. Its very rare but it does happen. If you work hard and spend a ton of cash on something then it should be yours to do with as you like.

[GBuck]

We use to bow hunt in there off the Cartwright quarter lineon the south side out of Blackstock. The snowmobile trails gave us acces to some great spots. Never had a problem but near the end they would go in a cut treestands left hanging. They were very strick about guns but I never went in till after the gun season. Spent many a New Years eve in there with my buddy watching the sun go down on another years hunt.

nice.

are you saying you tresspass

funny enough just yesterday I was out securing some permission. In talking to a couple different landowners the big issue is tresspassing. I believe that tresspassers give us all a bad name. In some cases tresspassing will result in the loss of hunting privledges for everyone.

[revrnd]

I could be wrong but I think the Ont. Fed. of Snowmobile clubs runs some of there trails through this Syndicate marsh , If anyone knows for sure I;am interested.

Yes the Port Perry S/C does have permission to mark trails across the marsh.

[revrnd]

Isn't Scugog a man -made lake? Wasn't it a big gravel pit at one time?

Scugog (& most of the lakes in the Trent/Severn) are man-made from when the canal was built, 1833 - 1920. I doubt it was a old gravel pit.

[patvetzal]

Things were different around Cartwright back in the early sixties. If someone didn't want you on their land then they would put up signs. Other than that we were taught not to litter, leave gates as we found them etc. The south boundary of the syndicate had some markings, but not many. The swamps were great snowshoe rabbit country after the ducks headed south and no one seemed to care. The ridges were all jackrabbit country and we could wander on the crusty snow for miles without upsetting any landowners. Then skidoos appeared along with their legal issues,,,

[trimmer21]

Syndicate property extends north of the causeway on the south east arm of Lake Scugog out into the lake about 300yds and north along the shore about one mile. It is,indeed,flooded farmland and the syndicate still owns the lake bed and still pay taxes on. It is,therefore,still private property. I've seen "No Trespassing" signs stuck on posts in the lake except for this past summer. Apparently,someone hit a post and damaged their boat while out at night,threatened to sue the Syndicate if the signs weren't removed because,under the Canada Shipping Act,they were deemed a hazard to navigation. Evidently,the Syndicate paid for damages to the person's boat and removed the signs,so,the law suit was dropped.