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    Wheel is correct. A PAL has nothing to do with hunting whatsoever. You can hunt without a PAL.

    What you can't do is buy or possess a firearm without a PAL. The way around that is that you can shoot a gun without a firearms license as long as you are under the "direct supervision of an adult 18 years or older who has a firearms license for the category of the firearms you wish to shoot."

    "Direct Supervision" is, as always the case when looking for certainty, not defined in law and subject to interpretation. If the supervising person is also carrying a firearm and 100 yards away, is that direct supervision? Or does the supervising PAL holder need to be without a gun and immediately next to the non-PAL hunter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAARG View Post
    Wheel is correct. A PAL has nothing to do with hunting whatsoever. You can hunt without a PAL.

    What you can't do is buy or possess a firearm without a PAL. The way around that is that you can shoot a gun without a firearms license as long as you are under the "direct supervision of an adult 18 years or older who has a firearms license for the category of the firearms you wish to shoot."

    "Direct Supervision" is, as always the case when looking for certainty, not defined in law and subject to interpretation. If the supervising person is also carrying a firearm and 100 yards away, is that direct supervision? Or does the supervising PAL holder need to be without a gun and immediately next to the non-PAL hunter?
    They certinly don't go out of their way to make the firearms laws clear to everyone. I just got my grandson 'minor carry permit' [ between 15 and 18] it took forever, and nobody seemed to be able to answer direct questions while doing it. Had to deal with O.P.P, R.C.M.P, and D.R.P.S.

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    Or does the supervising PAL holder need to be without a gun and immediately next to the non-PAL hunter?
    That is correct. Direct supervision requires you to be as near to the person as is practicle and not engaged in any other activity (including your own shooting).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    They certinly don't go out of their way to make the firearms laws clear to everyone. I just got my grandson 'minor carry permit' [ between 15 and 18] it took forever, and nobody seemed to be able to answer direct questions while doing it. Had to deal with O.P.P, R.C.M.P, and D.R.P.S.
    By the time my Minors permit came in (I had the cabron copy I was allowed to carry) but by the time the plastic actually arrived, I was no longer a minor and it was useless lol.
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    I looked up the wording to be more sure. In the Firearms Act is uses the term "direct and immediate supervision" and, while not a defined term, I would interpret that to mean the person needs to be pretty close by and not principally engaged in something else.

    See: http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/a...n+direct#s-33.

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    As long as your with someone who has their PAL they can use a Firearm under that persons supervision. However you still may require your Hunting Tags and Licenses to hunt game.

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    ANYONE in possession of a firearm MUST have a PAL or POL(if still valid meaning unexpired). To NOT do so leaves one open to a criminal charge of "unlawful possession of a firearm". Anyone "in direct supervision" must be actively engaged with the shooter and only one firearm is allowed between both shooters. The only instance where a hunter doesn't need a PAL is when using archery equipment,only. Of course,a hunting license is always a "must have".

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    Quote Originally Posted by mooboy76 View Post
    As far as I know, an unlicenced individual can operate a firearm, provided they are under direct and immediate supervision of an individual licenced for that class of firearm.

    Bingo,,,,,,,,,,,,

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    ANYONE in possession of a firearm MUST have a PAL or POL(if still valid meaning unexpired). To NOT do so leaves one open to a criminal charge of "unlawful possession of a firearm". Anyone "in direct supervision" must be actively engaged with the shooter and only one firearm is allowed between both shooters. The only instance where a hunter doesn't need a PAL is when using archery equipment,only. Of course,a hunting license is always a "must have".

    Can you show me where it says only one firearm???

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    Quote Originally Posted by trimmer21 View Post
    ANYONE in possession of a firearm MUST have a PAL or POL(if still valid meaning unexpired). To NOT do so leaves one open to a criminal charge of "unlawful possession of a firearm". Anyone "in direct supervision" must be actively engaged with the shooter and only one firearm is allowed between both shooters. The only instance where a hunter doesn't need a PAL is when using archery equipment,only. Of course,a hunting license is always a "must have".
    Got to be careful with those broad statements there Trimmer !!! LOL

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