Shopping at Sail... Weird

[Gaoler]

I worked retail for over 30 years and my concern isn't that you were stopped but you aliowed them to search your bag. They are not allowed to unless it is a safety or threat concern. Next time they ask say no unless they place you under arrest and see there reaction

Yeah... I just keep walking.

'Never had a problem. They follow me so far saying "sir"... "sir"... but then give up.
If they really think I'm stealing they can call the 5-0

I mean I've NEVER sen it posted anywhere at Walmart/Costco or SAIL that visitors are subject to bag searches upon exiting their stores, so... It's not like they're giving you the option to stay outside if you don't want to play their little game.

[werner.reiche]

When your at the Tims drive through and the car up ahead places a huge order.
When your at the ATM and the person ahead of you starts paying bill after bill after bill.
When your at the other big box and have to take a number and wait and wait and wait.
We have the power to choose to let it get under our skin............................ or not

Its all in how you look at it, and what you choose to let affect you.

Good post.
Too many folks on here are too sensitive.
You're all going to have heart trouble before you're 50.

[GrouseWhisperer]

Oh boy...

I didn't read every single post, but most of them on this ^ I agree. Their prices aren't great, the knowledge base doesn't seem to be either. In fact, the prices on their fishing gear is the worst I've seen in S. Ontario. (reels and fish finders, both of which I was shopping for last year) The gun counter is a joke. Unless you're the only one there...you'll have to wait until the little boys club/chit-chat between the staff and some "customers", NOT seeming to buy anything, ends. Every time I'm there. Look for them down by the expensive O/U shotguns. Rant almost over...

I completely resent being "frisked" by staff after paying good money, some 50 yards from where I parted WITH that money. It's insane. I bought a .22 there the first week they opened. They weren't that busy, but it still took almost 20 minutes to get someone's attention, get them to fill out a slip/bill of sale. I had to march that down to customer service, take it (now paid) BACK up the gun counter where the boxed rifle wasn't passed to me....but rather, a twerp from the gun counter who marched me practically to my truck before handing it to me. Felt like I was a shoplifter being escorted out by security. It was embarrassing.

If you want a kayak, backpack, or $20 pair of socks, it's probably a great store. If you want to pay ridiculous prices for fishing gear, get marginal customer service from the gun counter, then be treated like a criminal, SAIL is the place to go.

No thanks.

[Redbull]

I've had nothing but good service with friendly staff. I've purchased ammo, camping gear, clothing and hunting/fishing equipment from Sail. Never once asked to see my bag, never once felt I was a burden to the sales associates. In fact, the poor bugger in the camping section in the Burlington store deserves a medal after dealing with me, my wife and 5 year old son for 1.5hrs on a Friday night, while it was busy.....Jeez, lighten people.
I didnt care much for their fishing rod selection so I took my business elsewhere, my choice.

RB

[krypplephite]

Not everything can be justified based on protecting big box corporate profits against theft.

There was a time (in my lifetime) that a store would not dare do this to a customer unless they KNEW a theft had been attempted (in which case it's justified).

However if we keep up the acceptance of these practices, and we'll end up with CCTV cameras in the change rooms and rest rooms as well.

Or is that ok too?

Where does one draw the line?

Maybe you shoved a fishing lure down your pants... Should we all line up for a cavity search at the exit in order to ensure low low prices?

Sorry guys - The Libertarian in me sees a huge slippery slope when it comes to practices like this, and I won't spend my money at a store that does it.

I think we can all agree that everyone has a right to choose where to shop.

[seabast]

Good post.
Too many folks on here are too sensitive.
You're all going to have heart trouble before you're 50.

Life is short and I just want to be traited like a normal customer. I made my choose and I won't be back to Sail to buy ammo, I don't want to wait again ten minutes at customer service while there is no one at the "normal people" check out. Even Walmart doesn't do that!
And it has nothing to do with sensitive, it all about making it right for every one and trying to change thing. What's wrong with that?

[Snowwalker]

Thats fair.
When your in a rush to hit the road and get to the cottage/vacation and waiting for what seems forever and your carded at the beer store/lcbo....

Carded? I wish..
When I was a kid they were still working on this new high tech stuff called dirt.. You know how hard it is to get rock stains out of Styracosaurus skin pants( Means spiked lizard)

[bowj]

I haven't had time to read all the posts....

But atleast when you get stopped at the door they actually take the time to check your receipt and what you bought. at Costco they make you line up at the door, than the person pretends that they check your stuff over and put a black line on your receipt. Why am I waiting in line (again) for the illusion of security?

I don't think it should be necessary, especially when they have scanners sensor thingys at the doors anyways!! that being said I would like someone here to prove that they are not allowed to look into your bag on your way out. I believe they are as long as you are on their property, but I could be wrong.....

[krypplephite]

I would like someone here to prove that they are not allowed to look into your bag on your way out. I believe they are as long as you are on their property, but I could be wrong.....

Legally speaking, they can ask to look in your bag. If you refuse to comply, they have a choice to make...

They can either let you walk away, or they can attempt a citizens arrest using no more force than is necessary to detain you for the police. Store staff or private security has the same authority that any citizen does. No more, no less.

If you believe you are being falsely arrested by another citizen, you also have the right to use no more force than is necessary to prevent that arrest.

Where I grew up, that's called a fist fight

When asked, I always comply and then never (ever) return - I'm not out to ruin some poor wage-slave's shift or risk a confrontation with an overzealous rent-a-cop.

[greatrack]

Not everything can be justified based on protecting big box corporate profits against theft.

There was a time (in my lifetime) that a store would not dare do this to a customer unless they KNEW a theft had been attempted (in which case it's justified).

However if we keep up the acceptance of these practices, and we'll end up with CCTV cameras in the change rooms and rest rooms as well.

Or is that ok too?

Where does one draw the line?

Maybe you shoved a fishing lure down your pants... Should we all line up for a cavity search at the exit in order to ensure low low prices?

Sorry guys - The Libertarian in me sees a huge slippery slope when it comes to practices like this, and I won't spend my money at a store that does it.

I think we can all agree that everyone has a right to choose where to shop.

I agree I'm not letting anyone check my bags. I find sail totally useless and over priced most of the time. They take forever to help and when they do they don't know anything g so your still left there looking for real help.

I haven't had time to read all the posts....

But atleast when you get stopped at the door they actually take the time to check your receipt and what you bought. at Costco they make you line up at the door, than the person pretends that they check your stuff over and put a black line on your receipt. Why am I waiting in line (again) for the illusion of security?

I don't think it should be necessary, especially when they have scanners sensor thingys at the doors anyways!! that being said I would like someone here to prove that they are not allowed to look into your bag on your way out. I believe they are as long as you are on their property, but I could be wrong.....

I'm yet to have someone actually stop me and hold me I wouldn't resist if some one came and tried. But you can bet your @$$ you wouldn't be working there when your done humiliating me i front of everyone. I've even had security follow me telling me to stop right to me truck. But never stop me.