243 is a barrel eater

[M_P]

I'm assuming you mean bullet weight?

lightest factory ammo is 115 grain.

if you get into hand loading you can get 90 grain bullets for .270

Nuh Uh. Picked up some 100 gr .270 at Al's in Arnprior last fall

[skypilot]

Do some research on plastic bolt shroud, pinned action(long action pinned to make a short action) plastic mag and bottom metal, etc.

Nothing too terribly wrong with any of the above other than the plastic bolt shroud, if a case turns loose.

Just be informed before you pay a "premium price" for a manufacturer's shortcuts.

PS... a .243 is enough for deer.

[Bluebulldog]

The 243 also harvests moose, elk and black bear year after year with great success. Any one who claims they are minimal for deer couldn't be more wrong.

You want to take to the woods with a .243 for moose, or bear? Have at it. The ballistic coefficient of a 90 grain bullet from a .243 is not what I or many shooters would consider a big game getter. Muzzle 3100 energy 2027. Quickly drops past the 250 mark. The ability to penetrate is greatly compromised past 150 yards on larger game animals as well. If you're that good a shot out there in the field, that's great that you can hit a 12" square of a moving target every time, I'm quite impressed. I however would prefer to assume that even though I know exactly where my shot will go, I may not get a perfect one every time, and will shoot a heavier bullet to take that into account.

Many consider it a baseline round for deer. Alberta has it in their regs as such ( nothing below .23 cal).

[Bluebulldog]

Nuh Uh. Picked up some 100 gr .270 at Al's in Are prior last fall

I knew I had seen 100 grain factory ammo somewhere, but without remembering where, and looking online I didn't want to talk out of my .

[canadaman30]

You want to take to the woods with a .243 for moose, or bear? Have at it. The ballistic coefficient of a 90 grain bullet from a .243 is not what I or many shooters would consider a big game getter. Muzzle 3100 energy 2027. Quickly drops past the 250 mark. The ability to penetrate is greatly compromised past 150 yards on larger game animals as well. If you're that good a shot out there in the field, that's great that you can hit a 12" square of a moving target every time, I'm quite impressed. I however would prefer to assume that even though I know exactly where my shot will go, I may not get a perfect one every time, and will shoot a heavier bullet to take that into account.

Many consider it a baseline round for deer. I believe at least one province has it in their regs as such.

How many big game animals are shot past 250yds here in Ontario?? Hell how many are shot past 150yds. It does not matter the size of a bullit, a bad shot is a bad shot, a well placed shot at 150 yds on any Ontario big game with a 243 equals liquified lungs, dead meat.

[Bluebulldog]

How many big game animals are shot past 250yds here in Ontario?? Hell how many are shot past 150yds. It does not matter the size of a bullit, a bad shot is a bad shot, a well placed shot at 150 yds on any Ontario big game with a 243 equals liquified lungs, dead meat.

No argument.

Hope the moose stands still long enough to afford that "well placed shot", or the bear doesn't turn and cause the 90 grain bullet to glance off a shoulder bone, ( because everything sets up out in the field like it does on TV right?).

Is the .243 ok for deer? Sure. Is it a good go to round for other big game? That can easily be discussed here ad nauseum. My personal opinion is that if I went for a walk, and had a choice of a .243 or a .270, with the prospect of big game, the .270 will be the one I take.

The OP appears to be shopping for a 1st rifle. Why wouldn't he go for the .270?

[skypilot]

Bulldog........Nosler partitions, Barnes TSX, TTSX, Copper solids, etc.

[Bluebulldog]

Bulldog........Nosler partitions, Barnes TSX, TTSX, Copper solids, etc.

Yes I know.

And of course every mom and pop store up North carry premium ammo as well.

I load with them. But in the context of this thread. A new shooter has asked for a good deer / coyote gun, between a .270 and a .243. He is obviously is on a budget. Hence the advice to go for the .270 which in the long run is a more versatile round. He doesn't hand load, and will be relegated to shooting factory ammo.

I do not argue that the .243 is a nice shooter. I even will stipulate that in the hands of an experienced shooter, it is a decent gun for larger game possibly. Let's not get into the long drawn out thread over ethics, since a .223 neck shot is good on deer as well.

if the OP is going to lay his money down, and wants a versatile shooter, why is the .270 a poor choice? Since it offers a better range of factory ammo offered, and in heavier bullet weights as well.

[beagles1111]

You are the professor 270 it is...thx

[Bluebulldog]

You are the professor 270 it is...thx

Happy to help. Good luck and straight shooting with your new boom stick.