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February 1st, 2014, 07:02 PM
#11
I shot single shotguns for so long, I still forget there are two more shells for a faction of a second. Interestingly that fraction of a second seems to be all it takes for me to pick up and lead two more birds..
Take the warning labels off. Darwin will solve the problem.
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February 1st, 2014 07:02 PM
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February 2nd, 2014, 10:23 AM
#12

Originally Posted by
blasted_saber
In an hunting situation it offers no advantage. Hell, a pump is all thats needed. For trick shooting, sure. See Tom Knapp for example.
Tom Knapp is a prime example of fast, hickup free semi operations. He use to shoot for benelli, now I believe he is with CZ.
In regards to the typical hunting situation "fast" is not as important as dependable/issue free. I have some friends who shoot various brands of guns and the inconsistency/jams with their gun would drive me nuts. Theres a place in my heart for all manufacturers and they all have their specialties, but for autos Benelli or newer Franchi's always catch my eye.
Well I ain't no movie star, but I can get behind anything
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February 2nd, 2014, 10:34 AM
#13

Originally Posted by
Romulus86
Tom Knapp is a prime example of fast, hickup free semi operations. He use to shoot for benelli, now I believe he is with CZ.
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Pretty sure Tom Knapp died last year. And the reality is the brand he chose to use was whoever paid him better. He was the king and could do stuff that was amazing regardless of brand. It was also common knowledge that his guns were heavily tuned not off the rack guns. Trigger lock time is far more important than cycling speed. Those guys who specialize in shooting sports like clays or trap and use high end guns like Kreghoff and Perazzi have triggers tuned and in many cases have 1or2 replacement triggers ready to go. Just like in centerfires a crisp trigger with fast lock time is a game changer.
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February 2nd, 2014, 10:39 AM
#14
Yes Tom Knapp did die on April 26 of last year at age 62 from pulmonary fibrosis , he was also known for his ability with a pump action shot gun in trick shooting demonstrations.
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February 2nd, 2014, 03:18 PM
#15
Maybe it's about the speed and smoothness of the complete cycle which keeps the shooter on target or at least reduces the time to return to target, not necessarily the raw speed of shot spacing.
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February 2nd, 2014, 06:56 PM
#16
Has too much time on their hands
The measurable benefit can only be detected by accountants.
"What calm deer hunter's heart has not skipped a beat when the stillness of a cold November morning is broken by the echoes of hounds tonguing yonder?" -Anonymous-
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February 2nd, 2014, 10:21 PM
#17
I shoot 3-gun comps in the US.
The top tier shooters can certainly take advantage of guns that cycle faster than the next guys...
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February 3rd, 2014, 11:06 AM
#18

Originally Posted by
Gaoler
I shoot 3-gun comps in the US.
The top tier shooters can certainly take advantage of guns that cycle faster than the next guys...
My point exactly. Doesn't much matter the mechanical speed of the trigger assembly if time on target is interrupted and with longer duration by mechanical movement of the action.
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February 3rd, 2014, 12:24 PM
#19

Originally Posted by
skypilot
My point exactly. Doesn't much matter the mechanical speed of the trigger assembly if time on target is interrupted and with longer duration by mechanical movement of the action.
I think those 3 gun competitions are timed events with targets mostly stationary right? If that's the case then the gun requirements for that shooting isn't comparable to a high speed target like a wood duck or clay pigeon.
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February 3rd, 2014, 01:21 PM
#20
his is a classic from a few years back. A little hoakey but the guy could shoot.
http://youtu.be/v2Fsr2MOE_4