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January 15th, 2014, 05:01 PM
#11

Originally Posted by
Pointersrule
I going to assume that on the .410 test he was using 2-3/4" shells....he should have tried 3"...he maybe would have been even more surprised....also, would have loved for him to pattern a 28ga and a 16ga

The premise with the .410 test was to see if it was an effective "beginners gun". Ergo, he used the shorter, lighter kicking shells, which if you were looking at one for your son or daughter, you probably would be more inclined to do. After all, if you're going to go with 3" shells in a .410, you might as well get a gun that will last the kid into adulthood and but the 20g, and shoot 2 3/4" through it.
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
Proud member - Delta Waterfowl, CSSA, and OFAH
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January 15th, 2014 05:01 PM
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January 15th, 2014, 05:20 PM
#12
Has too much time on their hands
Ya, I understood the premise and I made the comment in respect to the "tounge and cheek" quote at the top of the test....a remark we have all heard before.....the test proved that the .410 is a "useable" and effective gauge for Upland and I just wanted to make some aware that it works even better with 3" on certain game.
"The .410 is a ballistic disgrace, and a crippler of gamebirds. Just ask me and all the other gun writers who have repeated that “fact” over the years. I believe beginning hunters should shoot a 20-gauge, not a .410, despite the higher recoil and extra weight of the 20. A comparison between the two, I was sure, would dramatically show the 20’s superiority."
"The Pointer is a superb Pointing Dog, born to serve a Gun. It will have no reason to exist when it will no longer be able to do so, or when there are no more Guns to be served."
The Woodcock: "A Prince Among Game Birds", "and its flesh is a delight to the palate of an epicure...the pretty pattern of woodland light and shades, the delicate long bill, and the big liquid eyes. An aristocrat among game birds!" AMEN.
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January 15th, 2014, 05:47 PM
#13
"Camo" is perfectly acceptable as a favorite colour.
Proud member - Delta Waterfowl, CSSA, and OFAH
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January 15th, 2014, 06:44 PM
#14

Originally Posted by
trimmer21
This is good info for all shotgunners. It kind of puts some myths to rest,at,least,as far as Federal Ammo goes,but,we must bear in mind that different brands pattern with various results.
I read this with a Bill Shatner accent lol
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January 15th, 2014, 06:48 PM
#15
Maybe its just my .410 (a Cooey) but I dont trust it enough to reliably kill game. It cant reliably break a stationary clay pigeon at 15m. I capped that as the max distance I'd shoot a grouse/rabbit, and thats with a wide open (no brush) shot.
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January 15th, 2014, 06:52 PM
#16

Originally Posted by
blasted_saber
I read this with a Bill Shatner accent lol
Aye,but,I canna get any more out of 'er,Cap'n. LOL
If a tree falls on your ex in the woods and nobody hears it,you should probably still get rid of your chainsaw. Just sayin'....
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January 15th, 2014, 08:16 PM
#17

Originally Posted by
Pointersrule
Ya, I understood the premise and I made the comment in respect to the "tounge and cheek" quote at the top of the test....a remark we have all heard before.....the test proved that the .410 is a "useable" and effective gauge for Upland and I just wanted to make some aware that it works even better with 3" on certain game.
"The .410 is a ballistic disgrace, and a crippler of gamebirds. Just ask me and all the other gun writers who have repeated that “fact” over the years. I believe beginning hunters should shoot a 20-gauge, not a .410, despite the higher recoil and extra weight of the 20. A comparison between the two, I was sure, would dramatically show the 20’s superiority."
Stop trying to convince yourself, just buy one......
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January 15th, 2014, 10:57 PM
#18

Originally Posted by
Pointersrule
I going to assume that on the .410 test he was using 2-3/4" shells....he should have tried 3"...
I would expect that the 3" would pattern worse and have a longer shot string than the 2-3/4", thanks to deformation of pellets in set-back. This is the usual trend with 3" lead shotshells.
"The language of dogs and birds teaches you your own language."
-- Jim Harrison (1937 - 2016)
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February 4th, 2014, 12:41 PM
#19
Now go blast something!!:thumbup: