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February 14th, 2014, 08:08 PM
#41
Originally Posted by
Doug
I assume you are you hunting with a gun? How about with a bow. As you saw from my post, an arrow through the Jugular was quick; but an accident. Do you consider the neck viable target for those of us who use a bow? I have turned down that shot, I have always been told the heart or lungs.
I'm out to harvest .. It's never an accident Sir . I use a bow not to be sporting .. I use it to eat and longer seasons it allows to harvest . Do any of my fellow hunters only hunt to kill ? I think not . I personally hunt to eat .
TD
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February 14th, 2014 08:08 PM
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February 14th, 2014, 08:51 PM
#42
I am not questioning your ethics what-so-ever, I also harvest to eat, I much prefer deer to other cuts of meat, unlike some I do not make it all into pepperettes and summer sausage. I want steaks and roasts, having a quick kill with no waste is important to me. I only use a bow, and I want the animal, deer in this case to drop as quickly and closely as possible. My only artery shots were an accident, and a FU on my part. The first I believe the right arm of my crossbow came into contact with a pack hanging from the tree, the second I attempted a walking shot at 5 yard and hit him back, he ran; but dropped in sight. I am more interested in learning about the neck shot as an opportunity for myself going forward. For the most part I will continue with trying for a heart and lung hit; but if that does not present itself the neck maybe an option.
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February 14th, 2014, 09:02 PM
#43
Originally Posted by
Doug
I assume you are you hunting with a gun? How about with a bow. As you saw from my post, an arrow through the Jugular was quick; but an accident. Do you consider the neck viable target for those of us who use a bow? I have turned down that shot, I have always been told the heart or lungs.
If in a tree stand it could work as well, if you are directly over top. Deer dropped. Spine and artery cut.
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February 14th, 2014, 09:33 PM
#44
Well Doug ,, I will get called and whacked on me saying this, but take that boiler shot ALWAYS when flinging arrows . It's the weapon .
The rifle or shotgun ? practice but alot has to do with how you shoulder the gun and how it feels . It's hard to explain but when it feels good you will know . I can hit the body on a partridge on the run at times but shoot his head off with my deer rifle . lol Yes " werner " an old guy " is still alive to this day '" seen me do it including whacking deers eyes out on the run . He shook his head too .
I just point at what I'm shooting at , I look at the eye . If you can see the " eye " you can kill it even in bow range . Think about the eye . Understanding
" the eye " . There is no firearm on earth ,, you will miss with if you can see the eye ..
Last edited by 400bigbear; February 14th, 2014 at 09:39 PM.
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February 14th, 2014, 09:47 PM
#45
Originally Posted by
robster
If in a tree stand it could work as well, if you are directly over top. Deer dropped. Spine and artery cut.
I have heard about this shot but have yet to do it . Would I ? Likely in an emergency situation . This is with a bow . ? YES spine , artery, etc . Gun ,, back of the head .. I actually have never thought about this shot in 39 years of hunting .. Has anybody ?
TD
Last edited by 400bigbear; February 14th, 2014 at 10:37 PM.
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February 14th, 2014, 10:05 PM
#46
Nope. Never. Unless it was a survival situation, and then I would probably be focused on trapping small animals and birds...
Too much room for error in NOT killing the animal. I MIGHT take a brain shot if I was close enough and that's all I had, but to start targeting the spinal/arterial shots? No way. Boiler room is ALWAYS my target of choice. Brain if close enough and I had NO OTHER option.
Learn all you can about nature. What we don't understand, we fear and what we fear, we destroy.
Teach a young person to hunt and fish, after all, someone taught you.
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February 14th, 2014, 10:33 PM
#47
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February 14th, 2014, 10:38 PM
#48
Has too much time on their hands
Originally Posted by
400bigbear
I RESPECT your post and point of VIEW you have lad . There is nothing wrong with the boiler room shot . Nothing . If i have choice of the two or three and clean shot ?. I'll take the one that drops them every time is all . Less risk .
TD
No worries TD. I've spent enough years in your style of camp to have a load of respect for how it's done. Seen some of the older guys make some amazing shots with iron sighted lever guns. Got pretty good at it myself too.
What it boiled down to for me was that although I was expected to take certain shots, I didn't quite feel right about taking them. My feeling is that if you can make the shot with confidence, then take it. That includes head/neck shots if you're good enough. I just know that I'm not good enough to do it consistently. Boiler room (for me) gives me the best chance.
What amazed me about that style of hunting was that although you might think so, very few deer were ever wounded and not recovered.
"where a man feels at home, outside of where he's born, is where he's meant to go"
- Ernest Hemingway
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February 14th, 2014, 11:29 PM
#49
Originally Posted by
GW11
No worries TD. I've spent enough years in your style of camp to have a load of respect for how it's done. Seen some of the older guys make some amazing shots with iron sighted lever guns. Got pretty good at it myself too.
What it boiled down to for me was that although I was expected to take certain shots, I didn't quite feel right about taking them. My feeling is that if you can make the shot with confidence, then take it. That includes head/neck shots if you're good enough. I just know that I'm not good enough to do it consistently. Boiler room (for me) gives me the best chance.
What amazed me about that style of hunting was that although you might think so, very few deer were ever wounded and not recovered.
Thank you SIR . Everything you said I just could not articulate as well . Yes some of us can make that shot and I've paced out many of the old lads that smoked me on my best day . I've made shots too that even the old lads shook their heads at when they went down but they were there , . The thing is , you knew . If you heard a shot in area that lad was standing in .. it likely was down .
WE take shots and expect every and all bullets to hit where we aim . It is not about " hail marys " . Dumb rednecks, we are, that often shoot open sights There have been some long shots across fields but most of our shooting is close and fast ahead of dogs,.
ALL I care is to have the confidence to shoot and make that shot .. scope or otherwise . You lads yappin at my nemisis Mike PAL . He flattened his deer on the spot , Worst thing is even this ol trapper cannot critique his clean kill and shot .. SAY congrats to MIKE . A good shot and clean , humane kill ..
TD
Last edited by 400bigbear; February 14th, 2014 at 11:33 PM.
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February 15th, 2014, 09:01 AM
#50
When I am up in my blind I occasionally have stray dogs put deer thru the valley. I shoot a Ruger #1, 243 single shot. When a deer comes running thru I don't even pick up the gun.
When I am hunting with others then my 44 is in my hand.
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