Deer in trouble/where is the money

[Iggy]

License money for fishing and hunting is nothing more than a tax. Who says it has to be spent in natural resources? If you think it is, you haven't been watching this government in action.
Want to help some deer, go cut down some cedars where you know deer hang out, watch how fast the snip the juicy tops off them. Feeding them corn at this time of year will just quicken their demise

[trappermatt]

License money for fishing and hunting is nothing more than a tax. Who says it has to be spent in natural resources? If you think it is, you haven't been watching this government in action.
Want to help some deer, go cut down some cedars where you know deer hang out, watch how fast the snip the juicy tops off them. Feeding them corn at this time of year will just quicken their demise

the law of this province says it must , you know I could care less how much anyone hates our current government here in ontario , at least take the time to educate yourself on were the money form licences goes to and the rules surrounding how it's spent

[400bigbear]

The money goes to the treasurer of Ontario in other words the general coffers . Who knows where it is spent from there unless your going to believe a politician . As far as feeding the deer ? Many of us have been since the snows started . All those that have been are doing great and the feed has been a combination of grain and corn , just corn and for some just hay . They're alive and well . They still browse too .

TD

[werner.reiche]

The money goes to the treasurer of Ontario in other words the general coffers . Who knows where it is spent from there unless your going to believe a politician . As far as feeding the deer ? Many of us have been since the snows started . All those that have been are doing great and the feed has been a combination of grain and corn , just corn and for some just hay . They're alive and well . They still browse too .

TD

Agree. The money is *supposed* to go to f&w management. We know this because both MNR and OFAH are telling us this.

But since it is less than what is required to entirely fund MNR, there's quit a bit of general revenue tax put into MNR too, and it's pretty hard to tell which dollars are which - particularly when MNR also spends a lot of time and money doing enforcement for OMFRA. No way to tell how its being spent.

[Fenelon]

Asides from the fact that the MNR has no budget, and no field staff remaining, I'd be surprised if they initiated any winter feeding at all, given all the talk about CWD lately. All the CWD data from the states shows that the transmission rate goes through the roof when they are concentrated around feeder areas. Wouldn't surprise me if it will soon be ilegal to feed, esp. if Ontario sees its first case of CWD. The SDI (snow depth index) is now critical in the area I live, with zero supportive crust. I'm running as many trails as I can with my Tundra long track, linking conifer shelter areas to areas that contain good browse. If it was my own private land, I'd be cutting cedar tops and placing them on the trails, and hinging some maples. Pray for no more snow, a thaw to form a crust, and hopefully an early spring. Will be intersting to see the tag allocation next fall.

[trappermatt]

Agree. The money is *supposed* to go to f&w management. We know this because both MNR and OFAH are telling us this.

But since it is less than what is required to entirely fund MNR, there's quit a bit of general revenue tax put into MNR too, and it's pretty hard to tell which dollars are which - particularly when MNR also spends a lot of time and money doing enforcement for OMFRA. No way to tell how its being spent.

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_109164.pdf

if you anyone thinks licence revenue is not going to the SPA , then I'd suggest you phone the OPP as Ontario law is bring broken

[blasted_saber]

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodcons...rod_109164.pdf

if you anyone thinks licence revenue is not going to the SPA , then I'd suggest you phone the OPP as Ontario law is bring broken

Slow. Clap.

[400bigbear]

I don't for a minute believe it since all license fees go directly to the treasury not the MNR . Stocking programs ??? . Another farce since the ministry even shut down hatcheries which were totally run by volunteers . Even feeding programs are done by volunteers and even funds supplied by the community . B.S. you should ask your grandfather who, initiated feeding long before you were born in area 49 and 50 . There were 4 of us and your grandfather was one although your grandfather went Muskoka Huntcamps wildlife feeding program and fundraising . We never saw a nickel or load of feed from any of that though to this day . Nor from MNR . Our deer numbers were so low and still would be if we wouldn't have stepped in on our own and that was when MNR actually still meant something .


TD

[3030]

Better phone the OPP then

[400bigbear]

Better phone the OPP then

Why ?. Is the OPP going to start feeding deer ?


TD