explain to me why ohep cost 300 bucks?

[Bluebulldog]

Ok. Just a quick online check.

$120 to take the course, and take the exam here in ON. ( Includes book). That's not too bad.

Mark, your logic is that you'll register for an online course in the US costing what? Plus the cost of gas to go do your practical. Oh and lets not ignore the fact that from a lot of the stateside websites I've just seen, the online version is available to residents only ( proof required). So let's say you pay $60 US to take the course, plus your gas to drive from TO to the US to do it ( another $40 perhaps?) plus the value of your time to do the travelling, and wait at the border. Now add the cost of challenging the exam at $40.

What are you really saving? Last time I checked the trip from TO to Buffalo ran 2 hours each way, 4 hours total......what is your time worth?

Sorry friend, but if this end run you're thinking of is really such a value, do you not think it would have been discussed on these boards already? Do you not think that some other enterprising individual would have done it, and then came back extolling the virtue of doing so?

The price of the course is good value. The total cost of getting your hunters ed, and PAL is $300. Peanuts compared to the cost of getting involved in many other things. Given the fact that they are "lifetime courses" and don't require a training re-cert, they are huge value.

[genec]

well did some calling around.. I can get it done in another state even though I am a resident of Ontario and then come back and challenge the exam. ...

No, you can't.
IF you are a resident of Ontario, you MUST take the course before you can get your first hunting license.
IF you are a resident OF A US STATE, with a CURRENT state hunting license from that state, you are allowed to come in and challenge the Ontario exam ONCE. If you pass, then ok. If you fail, then you must take the course.
Just having a US license doesn't make you a US citizen!

[mark270wsm]

No, you can't.
IF you are a resident of Ontario, you MUST take the course before you can get your first hunting license.
IF you are a resident OF A US STATE, with a CURRENT state hunting license from that state, you are allowed to come in and challenge the Ontario exam ONCE. If you pass, then ok. If you fail, then you must take the course.
Just having a US license doesn't make you a US citizen!

GENEC your now calling me a liar... (you called me one in a earlier post so now I think you are SEVERLY WRONG on your above reply .. I have found a loop hole in the system and exposed it as a blantant cash grab on new hunters maybe just maybe you will have to offer your courses for cheaper price I visit the usa regularly and it would be no extra fee for me to have my child done stateside.
ALSO I have confirmation from the Ontario card center that says different I called the mnr office and they refered me to the card center . now its it time to make a push for Ontario to be online ready so that will be my next excursion ...

[Bluebulldog]

You travel to the USA frequently, but you're complaining about having to take a $120 Hunters Safety course?

Good luck to you friend, you've found a "loop hole", that would appear to almost be a break even point when you add it up. Assuming that you then pass when you challenge the exam.

I re-iterate, you must be very smart, as you've found something that 1000s of hunters before you haven't. And it obviously is such a great idea that everyone on here who has navigated the system before you probably regrets missing it.

Do keep us posted on your odyssey.

[Blackwolf]

GENEC your now calling me a liar... (you called me one in a earlier post so now I think you are SEVERLY WRONG on your above reply .. I have found a loop hole in the system and exposed it as a blantant cash grab on new hunters maybe just maybe you will have to offer your courses for cheaper price I visit the usa regularly and it would be no extra fee for me to have my child done stateside.
ALSO I have confirmation from the Ontario card center that says different I called the mnr office and they refered me to the card center . now its it time to make a push for Ontario to be online ready so that will be my next excursion ...

Mark,
how is it you can be a resident of both New York and Ontario? Sounds real fishy to me not a "loop hole" as you claim, but you have traded your honour and integrity for what, money? Does saving a few dollars really mean that much to you? If you are a businessman going into the states, you are not very smart, otherwise you would have already realized the time and energy you have spent into maneuvering and finding the "loophole" has cost you more than the $100.00 you saved. Real smart!!
So if you get offended, oh well!!

[redd foxx]

12. (1) The Minister or any person designated by the Minister may appoint persons to be hunter education examiners for such period as the Minister may determine. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 12 (1).
(2) The examiner shall issue a report to an applicant who successfully completes an examination approved by the Minister. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 12 (2); O. Reg. 600/05, s. 7.
(3) Every applicant for an examination shall submit with the application,
(a) a certificate issued to the applicant by a hunting instructor under section 13 or a predecessor of it;
(b) a certificate indicating that the applicant has completed a hunter education course issued to the applicant after January 1, 1968 by a competent authority in any jurisdiction; or
(c) a hunting licence issued after January 1, 1968 to the applicant by a competent authority in any jurisdiction in which he or she was a resident at the time. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 12 (3).
(4) A resident who fails to pass his or her first hunting licence examination in Ontario shall not apply for re-examination unless he or she files with the application a certificate issued by a hunting instructor under section 13. O. Reg. 665/98, s. 12 (4).

Above appears to be the section dealing with exams in Ontario. Looks like section "c" is the one that would apply to licenses issued outside of Ontario as proof of hunting experience and it would appear the person would have had to be a resident in that jurisdiction when that license was obtained. Travelling to the U.S to do the course may not work.

[genec]

GENEC your now calling me a liar... (you called me one in a earlier post so now I think you are SEVERLY WRONG on your above reply .. I have found a loop hole in the system and exposed it as a blantant cash grab on new hunters maybe just maybe you will have to offer your courses for cheaper price I visit the usa regularly and it would be no extra fee for me to have my child done stateside.
ALSO I have confirmation from the Ontario card center that says different I called the mnr office and they refered me to the card center . now its it time to make a push for Ontario to be online ready so that will be my next excursion ...

If you showed up with a US license and NO proof that you were a US citizen of the state that issued you that license I would REFUSE to give you a challenge exam because you're NOT a citizen of the license issuing state!
Take offense of you want, but that's the rules that we have to follow for testing.
If you could produce WRITTEN confirmation from the MNR that you would be allowed to challenge the exam with the US license that that would be different - the MNR is the decision making body in Ontario that dictates the rules for hunting in Ontario.

[baby123]

there has a lot of bantering about this thread
good and bad points

I was an instructor for 15 years, until they wanted to combine the hunting course and pal course.

But I think we have beat this subject to death...Just my opion
...lol

[swampdogger]

there has a lot of bantering about this thread
good and bad points

I was an instructor for 15 years, until they wanted to combine the hunting course and pal course.

But I think we have beat this subject to death...Just my opion
...lol

YES i would think so, like about 6 pages back. lol.

[grizzlygreig]

Hey turkey rookie... Check this one out...